Yeah. I admit I struggle to find a lobby these days, with gears 4 and 5 taking up the playerbase population. But I could find plenty of KoTH matches for gow1 UE for around 3 years or so without issue.
Plus, Tbf to gears 1, it’s *very* basic compared to later entries. Low weapon variety (I like the gnasher, but in gears 1 multiplayer it’s basically just that, long shot, torque bow and boomshot. All other guns are ignored completely), no executions, a lot of pros (and myself tbh) also hate the gnasher in UE as it always hits the centre of the screen rather than coming from the barrel like later entries. The remake improved it compared to the original by adding game modes where you have more than 1 life and no peer to peer, but it’s still gears 1 at the end of the day and most of us were spoiled by 2 and 3’s far better offerings.
Yeah, classic GoW multiplayer just doesn't have a foot to stand on anymore. It was great back then because it was different and there was nothing like it, especially on console.
These days it would just be considered an unbalanced mess.
I honestly doubt this rumor until it's confirmed by Microsoft itself, we been asking for a remake of the trilogy for years now, and the developers always said they rather work on newer entries (that we would never get a remake like they did with the first game).
That's a tall order. Remaster the games to Gears 5 level graphics? First off the original game already had a remaster. It would take a lot of time to remaster 2/3/Judgement.
I'm all for it! Just saying, would the sales really justify the effort required?
Wouldn’t be millions of sales since it would be thrown on Gamepass. They would make money on cosmetics and season packs I’m sure. The game would have a high player count. I think since 2, & 3 were One X enhanced and we were supposed to get a Series Optimized Gears Ultimate edition most of the work would be updating the textures. I think a bonus would be adding some Ray tracing but yes, updating them to UE 5 would be great so long as we don’t get a Return to Arkham disappointment where the game went from UE 3 to 4 and lost a lot of the great textures.
Let's be real, unless all the games get a treatment, there's not much reason for a collection like this at all. The games are all already playable through BC.
Yep, all BC and on Game Pass. Announcing a GoW collection that is just all the current versions in one bundle would be the most boring game collection ever announced lol
Im just wondering how hard/easy it would be to port them to the new Unreal. There's a lot of baked in features that would quickly improve the visual quality. Lighting alone would go a long way in improving the quality.
If this is true I imagine they'll reveal it at the Xbox/Bethesda showcase on June 12th. And when they do I'll be in my room screaming like a little fangirl
No thanks, can they please just stop milking the hell out of old games and focus on new games/franchises! That’s all there seems to be these days, remakes, remasters etc etc
I'd agree but I've been playing Halo Master Chief Collection for the entirety of Halo 5 and Halo Infinite's lifespan, so...
Given that and the fact that, for me, Gears of War is in a similar position as a franchise, I'm gonna eat this up for decades to come.
Besides the fact I wanna play through the beauty that is Gears 2's campaign remastered, I know I'll find myself playing wingman online endlessly for the rest of my life if this all comes to fruition.
Its one thing to make a remaster of a game or franchise that deserves it.. but nearly everything nowadays is getting remastered its just so frustrating. Like look at the state of GTA V for example.
Will probably have the single most cancerous achievement list ever created. Something about this franchise just never clicked with me. I like the campaigns but the MP has been the only MP I've literally ever tried that I couldn't come to grips with. No clue why. Halo fine, forza fine, last of us fine, league fine, street fighter fine, starcraft fine, PUBG fine, Titanfall fine, Gears tho: Giant pile of dookie lol I just didn't get it. It still remains as the biggest anomaly of my gaming career tbh.
I mean I can get downvoted all day but tbh the numbers speak for themselves. I'm not alone. Gears hasn't been in the top 40 most played games on Xbox in FOREVER now even with the aid of gamepass so apparently it's a very niche community because some of the games in the top 40 are well... interesting lol
[https://www.trueachievements.com/xbox-chart](https://www.trueachievements.com/xbox-chart)
With Halo I seen the point of remastering them in one collection because MCC is STILL high up in the most played even with Infinite being out but Gears is just... whatever Gears is.
Yeah I 100% agree with you. Gears used to be huge back in it's hayday 2006-2011 but as the original trilogy wrapped and the sequels while not bad, were just more of the same, interest dropped. It's a legendary franchise and one of my favorites but I think it's time to move on. Microsoft either needs to do a complete reboot in the vain of God of War ( which had the same struggles as Gears ) to inject new energy in to the series or let it rest. I'm fine either way, all the games have been great honestly and I really enjoyed 5 too but enough is enough. There's only so much you can do with this type of game I think but I'm happy to be proven wrong.
I just don't see where there is OBJECTIVELY demand for it and cause to think it will be overly successful tbh. They remastered Gears 1 and it died on the vine almost instantly as far as I can tell so now they're going to what? Do that with the entire franchise? A franchise that is already no where on the play charts? What are they going to do with 5+ games worth of MP stuff in a community that while apparently very vocal on Reddit doesn't have the #'s to stock a MP mode with enough people to make a difference? You have to have 100k people playing to even begin to think of stocking multiple games worth of MP content at a decent level. Hell MCC has those types of numbers and THEN some and you still can't find some game modes on some games at all or even close to consistently so they're going to try to do that with a fraction of the players???? Maybe they'll just make it all the campaigns and leave MP out of it because I don't know how they think they'd have the numbers otherwise from all the facts I can gather about that franchise currently.
The problem is the gears community is super vocal about the fact that we just don't like the new games. Gears 1 was a great start, no joke gears 2 to us was the peak, gears 3 was an amazing end to a trilogy, then we all hated gears 4, and gears 5 was a step in the right direction its just not ad enticing to play. If there was a MCC style remaster trust me the demand would be unreal just for gears 2 alone, especially if it was coming to pc
As much of an asshole as I am about where the franchise is right now at least with the numbers I could find I do genuinely hope that it's awesome for you guys that want it. Not every game appeals to everyone so I'm fine with missing out on something like Gears tbh. I'm just more burned out on how Xbox absolutely fucking refuses to move on and try ANYTHING new with it's IP. Obviously I'm bias as not caring for Gears as a MP game but I do think the campaigns are fun enough in coop every so often so I'd much rather see The Coalition make something new that they aren't held back on by current lore, world, characters and gameplay style personally. Gears has peaked. It will never draw in any more or less players than it has already had as it is right now because they refuse to change enough or let it die as opposed to something new that could be an absolute blockbuster if they just fucking TRIED SOMETHING NEW! lol
You know what? I'm kinda there with you. Horde mode with the boys was enjoyable enough, but the traditional PvP was never something I could really get comfortable with. After enjoying the campaigns I assumed I'd like the MP but not so much. After giving it a really good try I ultimately just gave up and went back to Halo and other titles.
But I never said it sucked or criticized those that enjoyed it because I just assumed I was the problem lol
It's not. Especially back when host advantage was humongous. One guy hitting headshots with the gnasher from 20 feet away while everyone else is lucky to down with 3 does not make for a fun time.
This would just highlight how much the series peaked at GoW2 and has been diminishing returns since then. 2 had an epic single player. 3, 4&5 and judgement were dull.
With MCC they were all quality.
I know it runs fine now, I played it last year. I also bought it when it first came out and it didn’t work, and that’s unacceptable. They don’t get credit for fixing a broken product years later that should have released in working condition.
I love the game, but I finished every event and collected every car (at the time) by Christmas. It’s honestly not that long with only 80 something races :/ not touched it since.
They need the expansion out soon. I need a reason to return to the thing. FH2 and 3 did it best with choosing your own race seasons so the game was effectively endless. 4 and 5 copy 1’s problem of having nothing to do after you finish the main events once :(
Honestly it would be really smart if they ported/remade gears 1-3 maybe 4 in unreal 5 that way when gears 6 eventually comes they’ll already have the multiplayer maps remade.
GOW3 multiplayer servers returning? With 60FPS??? GOW2 remake in the vain of the GOW1 remake? With populated multiplayer servers?????
SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!!!
Every hour is worth playing again. They just don't need to try to make the multiplayer seamless like MCC, which was the major cause of the issues. Just teamster the games separately and package them. Gears 2/3 remasters will be a godsend.
lol I specifically said Gears 2/3, and I'm talking about the campaigns. Gears 2 has one of the best campaigns I've ever played. There's a lot of demand for it that's why they even consider doing it. Regardless if you don't want it then ignore this thread, it doesn't impact you in any way if others want a remaster.
I don't think you understand how the industry works. There's no statistics proving that it's not good for consumers. They outsource this kind of work to companies that specialize in these things, in no way does it prevent other new ips from being developed. It'll also definitely be on gamepass so I ain't paying shit for it.
What's wrong with some of people's favorite games keeping pace with technology? Meaning, sure you can keep your OG Xbox hooked up to your 4K/120hz for some grainy ass looking Halo 2....
Or you could be happy MCC exists that allows for these classics to be optimized for your fancy new hardware.
It's really not so different than PC setups. At the time a game came out you got sub 30fps and like 480p. Years later your PC rig has been upgraded nicely and that same old game still runs, but now you get [email protected] That's not a remaster, it's the same game but luckily it was scalable to new hardware.
Consoles aren't technically capable of that. I can't take my OG Xbox Blinx disc, put it into a Series X, and it just run it 4k/120fps. You either get a remaster from devs, backwards compatible emulation, or you have no option to ever play the game again.
Also consider new gamers. We sometimes forget that there are people brand new to Xbox or PlayStation. Either adults just getting into game or young kids coming off Nintendo Switch and now they can experience an entire new library. For them Gears of War and plenty of games are brand new. I don't want to be the old man yelling at them to play the original games in their original format.
For them a remaster IS a new game, and it comes with the latest optimization so they get to experience like a new game. If their only option was Gears of War, the 360 version, low res 30fps.....they might not even play it.
Is it? Take 2 seconds to look at the entirety of yearly releases on all platforms. Just because there is big marketing and hype around remakes doesn't mean that represents the entire industry. Yeah the mainstream stuff is always just some kind of rehash or remake. COD, Halo, and other big titles are just regurgitations of the same formula.
But those just the big titles that get attention, not the industry as a whole.
If they’re doing this, they need to bring back the OG GoW multiplayer.
The did that already. The servers were empty within a year
Not true whatsoever
Even if it was bringing the full scale classics in one area would liven them back up again regardless.
Yeah. I admit I struggle to find a lobby these days, with gears 4 and 5 taking up the playerbase population. But I could find plenty of KoTH matches for gow1 UE for around 3 years or so without issue. Plus, Tbf to gears 1, it’s *very* basic compared to later entries. Low weapon variety (I like the gnasher, but in gears 1 multiplayer it’s basically just that, long shot, torque bow and boomshot. All other guns are ignored completely), no executions, a lot of pros (and myself tbh) also hate the gnasher in UE as it always hits the centre of the screen rather than coming from the barrel like later entries. The remake improved it compared to the original by adding game modes where you have more than 1 life and no peer to peer, but it’s still gears 1 at the end of the day and most of us were spoiled by 2 and 3’s far better offerings.
Yeah, classic GoW multiplayer just doesn't have a foot to stand on anymore. It was great back then because it was different and there was nothing like it, especially on console. These days it would just be considered an unbalanced mess.
Yea. Every now and then I get the itch to go play but gow5 just isn’t the same and the remaster has been empty for a long time
I hope bot support for LAN and custom games would be in for all the games as well, unlike the Halo games Gears had bot support since GoW2.
Gears of War: The Fenix Collection
I honestly doubt this rumor until it's confirmed by Microsoft itself, we been asking for a remake of the trilogy for years now, and the developers always said they rather work on newer entries (that we would never get a remake like they did with the first game).
Pretty much this.
I'd buy this. If they up the graphics to the quality of gears 5, and throw the multiplayer some love as well I could happily get stuck into it.
That's a tall order. Remaster the games to Gears 5 level graphics? First off the original game already had a remaster. It would take a lot of time to remaster 2/3/Judgement. I'm all for it! Just saying, would the sales really justify the effort required?
Wouldn’t be millions of sales since it would be thrown on Gamepass. They would make money on cosmetics and season packs I’m sure. The game would have a high player count. I think since 2, & 3 were One X enhanced and we were supposed to get a Series Optimized Gears Ultimate edition most of the work would be updating the textures. I think a bonus would be adding some Ray tracing but yes, updating them to UE 5 would be great so long as we don’t get a Return to Arkham disappointment where the game went from UE 3 to 4 and lost a lot of the great textures.
Let's be real, unless all the games get a treatment, there's not much reason for a collection like this at all. The games are all already playable through BC.
Yep, all BC and on Game Pass. Announcing a GoW collection that is just all the current versions in one bundle would be the most boring game collection ever announced lol
Im just wondering how hard/easy it would be to port them to the new Unreal. There's a lot of baked in features that would quickly improve the visual quality. Lighting alone would go a long way in improving the quality.
Well now I'm want them all updated to UE5.
That would be more of a remake. I really don't see that happening. They will probably increase the fidelity and call it a day.
I'd love for a new coat of paint for Gears 2 like Halo 2 Anniversary.
If this is true I imagine they'll reveal it at the Xbox/Bethesda showcase on June 12th. And when they do I'll be in my room screaming like a little fangirl
It's not been confirmed at all, it's a rumour!!
Okay, great, but can I get some news about Hellsinger, please? I've heard literally nothing about it since the trailer dropped.
You’re not the only one .
Doom with some Guitar Hero rhythm flavor in there? How is it not being constantly talked about!
Anything that has a doom reference or just inspiration from doom is a must play .
[Well would you look at that](https://youtu.be/vig4_lsrpto)
fucking nice ! super hype
They said a couple days ago on Twitter that there would be news soon. Make of that what you will.
No thanks, can they please just stop milking the hell out of old games and focus on new games/franchises! That’s all there seems to be these days, remakes, remasters etc etc
I'd agree but I've been playing Halo Master Chief Collection for the entirety of Halo 5 and Halo Infinite's lifespan, so... Given that and the fact that, for me, Gears of War is in a similar position as a franchise, I'm gonna eat this up for decades to come.
Me and the boys Rocket Race Halo 3 in MCC a minimum of once a week. It's so much fun we just don't want to play anything else, like ever.
Besides the fact I wanna play through the beauty that is Gears 2's campaign remastered, I know I'll find myself playing wingman online endlessly for the rest of my life if this all comes to fruition.
Its one thing to make a remaster of a game or franchise that deserves it.. but nearly everything nowadays is getting remastered its just so frustrating. Like look at the state of GTA V for example.
Lol Gears definitely deserves it?
Nah
Don’t compare that lackluster GTA remaster from Greedstar to what Microsoft studios can do.
Speak for yourself. I’d love to play GoW 3 remastered, especially if it’s in UE5
Will probably have the single most cancerous achievement list ever created. Something about this franchise just never clicked with me. I like the campaigns but the MP has been the only MP I've literally ever tried that I couldn't come to grips with. No clue why. Halo fine, forza fine, last of us fine, league fine, street fighter fine, starcraft fine, PUBG fine, Titanfall fine, Gears tho: Giant pile of dookie lol I just didn't get it. It still remains as the biggest anomaly of my gaming career tbh.
I'm on the same boat. I think the problem is that the pvp is full of gears veterans and the skillcap is too high.
I mean I can get downvoted all day but tbh the numbers speak for themselves. I'm not alone. Gears hasn't been in the top 40 most played games on Xbox in FOREVER now even with the aid of gamepass so apparently it's a very niche community because some of the games in the top 40 are well... interesting lol [https://www.trueachievements.com/xbox-chart](https://www.trueachievements.com/xbox-chart) With Halo I seen the point of remastering them in one collection because MCC is STILL high up in the most played even with Infinite being out but Gears is just... whatever Gears is.
Yeah I 100% agree with you. Gears used to be huge back in it's hayday 2006-2011 but as the original trilogy wrapped and the sequels while not bad, were just more of the same, interest dropped. It's a legendary franchise and one of my favorites but I think it's time to move on. Microsoft either needs to do a complete reboot in the vain of God of War ( which had the same struggles as Gears ) to inject new energy in to the series or let it rest. I'm fine either way, all the games have been great honestly and I really enjoyed 5 too but enough is enough. There's only so much you can do with this type of game I think but I'm happy to be proven wrong.
I just don't see where there is OBJECTIVELY demand for it and cause to think it will be overly successful tbh. They remastered Gears 1 and it died on the vine almost instantly as far as I can tell so now they're going to what? Do that with the entire franchise? A franchise that is already no where on the play charts? What are they going to do with 5+ games worth of MP stuff in a community that while apparently very vocal on Reddit doesn't have the #'s to stock a MP mode with enough people to make a difference? You have to have 100k people playing to even begin to think of stocking multiple games worth of MP content at a decent level. Hell MCC has those types of numbers and THEN some and you still can't find some game modes on some games at all or even close to consistently so they're going to try to do that with a fraction of the players???? Maybe they'll just make it all the campaigns and leave MP out of it because I don't know how they think they'd have the numbers otherwise from all the facts I can gather about that franchise currently.
The problem is the gears community is super vocal about the fact that we just don't like the new games. Gears 1 was a great start, no joke gears 2 to us was the peak, gears 3 was an amazing end to a trilogy, then we all hated gears 4, and gears 5 was a step in the right direction its just not ad enticing to play. If there was a MCC style remaster trust me the demand would be unreal just for gears 2 alone, especially if it was coming to pc
As much of an asshole as I am about where the franchise is right now at least with the numbers I could find I do genuinely hope that it's awesome for you guys that want it. Not every game appeals to everyone so I'm fine with missing out on something like Gears tbh. I'm just more burned out on how Xbox absolutely fucking refuses to move on and try ANYTHING new with it's IP. Obviously I'm bias as not caring for Gears as a MP game but I do think the campaigns are fun enough in coop every so often so I'd much rather see The Coalition make something new that they aren't held back on by current lore, world, characters and gameplay style personally. Gears has peaked. It will never draw in any more or less players than it has already had as it is right now because they refuse to change enough or let it die as opposed to something new that could be an absolute blockbuster if they just fucking TRIED SOMETHING NEW! lol
Agreed 100% lets hope they change it up soon
You know what? I'm kinda there with you. Horde mode with the boys was enjoyable enough, but the traditional PvP was never something I could really get comfortable with. After enjoying the campaigns I assumed I'd like the MP but not so much. After giving it a really good try I ultimately just gave up and went back to Halo and other titles. But I never said it sucked or criticized those that enjoyed it because I just assumed I was the problem lol
I mean clearly I was the problem with the MP as like I said it's the one single anomaly in my gaming career to now lol
It’s just you
It's not. Especially back when host advantage was humongous. One guy hitting headshots with the gnasher from 20 feet away while everyone else is lucky to down with 3 does not make for a fun time.
I literally never said it wasn't but thanks for being that asshole in the comments. Can always count on the internet :D
Nope, it's just you, I rather play Gears than Halo anyday.
That's literally the opinion of a tiny niche. Halo at its absolute low point still pulls more players than Gears on average.
If I played every game that pulled players, I would fall asleep playing. I not interested in kids games.
#"Fingers crossed" that this will not turn out as the latest halo franchise.
So it won't work for a year?
This would just highlight how much the series peaked at GoW2 and has been diminishing returns since then. 2 had an epic single player. 3, 4&5 and judgement were dull. With MCC they were all quality.
Maybe it’s just me but I loved GOW 3, my favorite of the series (and I played them in order)
Nah man, 3 was the best one. 2 got rushed out the door too quickly.
I actually just played through all the GoW games for the first time and 3 and 4 just felt so... bad? 5 was my favorite honestly.
Good thing Gears 5 was the best in the series then
Nothing dull about 3 at all.
Is it gonna be broken like MCC?
Yea about that…you should play it again, mcc is nothing like when it came out. It’s incredible now
I know it runs fine now, I played it last year. I also bought it when it first came out and it didn’t work, and that’s unacceptable. They don’t get credit for fixing a broken product years later that should have released in working condition.
Knows it's fine now but still talks shit.
Being fine now doesn’t excuse how it launched
You act like every game that's ever launched has never had issues. Every game that's launched ever has had issues. Boohoo.
Yeah. But it needs to actually work when launched. Not two years later. That’s the point.
It didn't take two years.... why you so mad?? Games fine now and you're still here bursting blood vessel's... get over it.
I’m not mad dude. You’re the one exaggerating and talking hyperbolic. Just chill dude, Master Chief still loves you.
Weirdo...
Took too long. Most people have moved on by now
I’m curious who the dev is or if this is just the coalition.
I hope they add a toggle to reduce/remove the aggressive screen shaking
Don't they have a collection already?
I'll take this with a grain of salt of course, but if they add additional accessibility to it... I'll definitely be replaying it!
What about an fh5 expansion, the game is boring as hell
I love the game, but I finished every event and collected every car (at the time) by Christmas. It’s honestly not that long with only 80 something races :/ not touched it since. They need the expansion out soon. I need a reason to return to the thing. FH2 and 3 did it best with choosing your own race seasons so the game was effectively endless. 4 and 5 copy 1’s problem of having nothing to do after you finish the main events once :(
Epic!
Honestly it would be really smart if they ported/remade gears 1-3 maybe 4 in unreal 5 that way when gears 6 eventually comes they’ll already have the multiplayer maps remade.
GOW3 multiplayer servers returning? With 60FPS??? GOW2 remake in the vain of the GOW1 remake? With populated multiplayer servers????? SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!!!
Great, hopefully it won't take *4 more years* to get it up to speed like it did with MCC (which is admittedly wonderful now.)
If this is real I hope its on UE4/5. For some reason, the UE3 games make me motion sick but I had no problem with the new one running on UE4.
Yes please remaster a whole 16 hours worth of gameplay, across three games, that isn’t worth replaying again. Gonna be broken as fuck too.
Every hour is worth playing again. They just don't need to try to make the multiplayer seamless like MCC, which was the major cause of the issues. Just teamster the games separately and package them. Gears 2/3 remasters will be a godsend.
Gears 2 is the best, hopefully they keep the dark atmosphere.
I’ve played Gears 1 enough times that I’d prefer to never play it again tbh. It’s only like three hours.
lol I specifically said Gears 2/3, and I'm talking about the campaigns. Gears 2 has one of the best campaigns I've ever played. There's a lot of demand for it that's why they even consider doing it. Regardless if you don't want it then ignore this thread, it doesn't impact you in any way if others want a remaster.
Keep buying remasters. It’s great for consumers to rebuy the same shit constantly.
I don't think you understand how the industry works. There's no statistics proving that it's not good for consumers. They outsource this kind of work to companies that specialize in these things, in no way does it prevent other new ips from being developed. It'll also definitely be on gamepass so I ain't paying shit for it.
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What's wrong with some of people's favorite games keeping pace with technology? Meaning, sure you can keep your OG Xbox hooked up to your 4K/120hz for some grainy ass looking Halo 2.... Or you could be happy MCC exists that allows for these classics to be optimized for your fancy new hardware. It's really not so different than PC setups. At the time a game came out you got sub 30fps and like 480p. Years later your PC rig has been upgraded nicely and that same old game still runs, but now you get [email protected] That's not a remaster, it's the same game but luckily it was scalable to new hardware. Consoles aren't technically capable of that. I can't take my OG Xbox Blinx disc, put it into a Series X, and it just run it 4k/120fps. You either get a remaster from devs, backwards compatible emulation, or you have no option to ever play the game again. Also consider new gamers. We sometimes forget that there are people brand new to Xbox or PlayStation. Either adults just getting into game or young kids coming off Nintendo Switch and now they can experience an entire new library. For them Gears of War and plenty of games are brand new. I don't want to be the old man yelling at them to play the original games in their original format. For them a remaster IS a new game, and it comes with the latest optimization so they get to experience like a new game. If their only option was Gears of War, the 360 version, low res 30fps.....they might not even play it.
Because this industry is constantly regurgitating the same thing over and over.
Is it? Take 2 seconds to look at the entirety of yearly releases on all platforms. Just because there is big marketing and hype around remakes doesn't mean that represents the entire industry. Yeah the mainstream stuff is always just some kind of rehash or remake. COD, Halo, and other big titles are just regurgitations of the same formula. But those just the big titles that get attention, not the industry as a whole.
you talking about halo or gears? ^^^/s
Just wait till they start remastering old Forza games.
I'll take Forza Horizon 2 in 4K60, with ray tracing and high quality textures! Yes please! :)
I’d just appreciate it if it didn’t come out like a pile of shit and also included like 7000 gamerscore like MCC.
Please do Gears of war 2 justice and don’t let the coalition get their stank on it, needs the same tone as the original.