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GeneralTanya

Yes. It has always been like this if you had read the other volumes. Author prefer to into the details and the inner thoughts. Hasn't change much.


[deleted]

Yes but in the earlier volumes there was at least also a lot of plot.


Mellevalaconcha

That's pretty much Ainz, I haven't read the recent volume, but sounds pretty normal


yayhindsight

> but sounds pretty normal ainz doing it is definitely normal, but check back in after actually reading, its definitely presented to the audience *much more* heavily in vol15 than previously.


[deleted]

Idk it seems to me like the author has taken on this trait of Ainz. Take for example the thing with the captain of the Scripture. That is not Ainz rationalising, it's the author over explaining decisions and motives like Ainz would.


Ashutoshp69

Well Vol15, 16 supposed to be a single volume but ended up 2 so yeah. This is what it is.


[deleted]

Yeah no wonder he had to split them up with that writing style. That is what I am saying. That's what I mean when I say it has become bloated.


[deleted]

Sure but why the need to explain every.single.decision.?


Borbolda

My guess is that author wrote more than enough for one volume, but not enough for two so he put a lot of water to make 15 hit that word count


yayhindsight

yall are being a bit hard on OP. I re-read all of the volumes prior to vol15 release, and i am quite confident that this is the slowest moving volume. like, yes people, ainz does do the whole overthinking/self-doubt in other volumes, but the *quantity* of it has been significantly higher in vol15.


[deleted]

Thank you, I was not sure that the previous volumes were not like this too. Glad I didn't just imagine it.


Pacmonster11

Not sure what people are talking about when they say "it's always been like this". I recommend people saying this reread the older volumes to see just how different the pacing is. Having recently reread the entire series, vol 15 is by far the slowest paced of them all so far. It reads like a student essay that was started the day before it was due and needed to make a word count to pass. The OP giving it "25%" plot is generous in my opinion. From the start of vol to the latest ch 3 part that was translated, 4 actions have happened. Ainz needed information on the Elf kingdom but failed to get anything useful. He goes to the Elf Kingdom with Aura/Mare and gathers the information he needs himself but still barely knows anything because he's afraid to actually learn what needs to be learned. The Scripture leader killed a child soldier and the Elf King killed him and we learn the Elf King is, in fact, an asshole. Something we were already aware of from the vol 11 intermission. And finally, Aura made a bear sl...friend to scare/impress some Dark Elves. And between those 4 story beats we have Ainz incessantly questioning every decision he's making or having disjointed thoughts on various barely related things. Something Ainz did do *occasionally* in past light novels but never to this concentrated degree. I could quote you like little tid bits when Ainz does this in other volumes or entire pages of Ainz doing nothing but this in vol 15. We learn nothing new about Aura or Mare as characters. In this same span of chapters in vol 11, which is similar in concept plot-wise, Ainz decided who would join him to the Dwarven Kingdom, he explored the lizardman's mind for details of the city he stayed in, they found the abandoned Dwarven city and discovered Gondo. Ainz gets Gondo's loyalty and learns a lot about rune crafting. Shalltear fights the scouting party of Quogoa and they learn about the main attack on the Dwarves' current capital, and the start of said battle is described. All the while we get plenty of solid characterization on Shalltear and Aura and world building on the Dwarves. I mean I suppose it's a decision on Muruyama's part to deteriorate Ainz's mental state to this degree but as a reader it's just frustrating to read as you never want to see your main characters *regress* over the course of a series.


[deleted]

Yes. Yes. YES! I agree with you 100%. You said it way better than I could have done. I am glad that I'm not the only one. Like I said I haven't read the series in a long time and wasn't sure if it has always been like that, so thank you for refreshing my memory like that. It's good to have the perspective of someobe who read the books recwntly and can compare them adequately. It seems like the book was too long to make it a single volume yet too short to make it two full volumes. Hence all the fluff, exposition and lack of thing actually happening.


Glum_Mode1646

Seem normal to me and vol 15 , theme was vacation and exploration so ...... Don't expect every arc to be intense plot oriented .


j_eldridge88

Don't see anything wrong here, the previous volumes is also pretty heavy on expositions. It's worldbuilding


[deleted]

I mean sure, but after 15 volumes it should be more plot than world building imo lol. The world has been built now it's time to fill ot with story. Like I said it is no wonder the series got so bloated and the author can't finish it properly. He spends 2 chapters to get Ainz to the Elf forest. He spends passages over passages on the background of the captain of the scripture who dies on the next page. Instead of this we could have answers forallthe open questions that won't get solved. But hey, I am glad we got that story with the bear.


j_eldridge88

That's just how Overlord is, the way it's written. The world is so big it's never gonna be enough, and most of us love it for that. Honestly the plot was never really the main thing of Overlord I'd argue. It's just there to give an opportunity to explore the world. Because let's be honest what kind of a plot can you write when your main characters are the OP bad guys. You can't really have a plot for Nazarick because most of the time, they're the ones MAKING the plot happens, cause that's what bad guys do in stories


[deleted]

Fair enough.


KaiKolo

It does happen quite a few times, but it's not always without purpose. I remember that the Six Arms, the enforcement group for the Eight Fingers that Sebas killer, were detailed quite a bit only for Sebas to four of them in about a paragraph. It might be anticlimactic but it does help to show Sebas' contempt for Six Arms As for Ainz's internal monologues when he stresses about security, defenses, and the right moves to take, that's a bit of a running theme but I'd argue that they add the scene. Ainz isn't book smart, but he is good at planning for potential dangers and minimizing risk. That type of paranoid thinking was necessary back in Yggdrasil since PK-ers would use lightning tactics, sniping, deception, cash shop items, and any other cheap shots they can. Edit: On another note... Yeah, the name of THAT specific Scripture organization is unfortunate and it is likely that it was named after the real event during WW2. The same organization is called the Firestorm Scripture in the English translation of the Light Novels if you want to use an alternative.


[deleted]

>The same organization is called the Firestorm Scripture in the English translation of the Light Novels if you want to use an alternative. Yes I do, thanks. >As for Ainz's internal monologues when he stresses about security, defenses, and the right moves to take, that's a bit of a running theme Yes I remember that too, what I don't remember is it going like this: Small decision that doesn't do much to advance the plot Entire paragraph of explanation/exposition/background Decision Paragraph of explanation And so on, the entire time.