By - MSimpsonPortland
When is the last time you can remember any of our local politicians actually delivering on any promises they made in a conference, statement, or press release?
I'm genuinely asking, I really can't remember.
we had two world class mayors in a row in Bud and Vera, we didn't know how good we had it...
We're pretty fucking far from Bud and Vera now...
I will do my best. I’m not a politician I’m a healthcare worker.
The city said the convention center would not work as a shelter because the cost would be 1.5 million. We have far more than that set aside. We can afford. There are plenty of other options including the port of Portland, Lloyd center and sites that were rejected due to pushback from neighborhoods. We can alter our allowance of short term rentals to aid in changing the housing market. We can use federal support.
What’s my position on police? Yes we need more police. We also are sick of racist/ violent/ teargas police. Portland voters overwhelmingly supported an independent oversight panel and body cameras that the police have pushed back on. These are non negotiable. This is a democracy and the people of Portland will decide how we are to be policed. Mayor wheeler authorized substantially more cash to hire police but they aren’t coming. Okay. That sucks honestly but just like hospitals and restaurants every business is suffering from being short staffed. In the meantime I think we can better allocate the police we have. Do we need an armed officer to file a report? Can we shift more focus towards gun violence? Honestly I do not know but I am working on the answers. This week I reached out to deputy chief Mike Frome with no response. I’ll keep working on that. I’m not at all convinced that we are doing everything we can to battle these issues.
I’m in outer SE Portland on 122nd St. and I’m running against Dan Ryan. There is a comment below asking these questions and I started to reply but he downvoted me immediately and I deleted it. I have nothing to hide. And I’d love to answer every question HOWEVER you have to “pick your battles” and I got the feeling that commenter just wanted to argue and I don’t need to feed into that.
That was 100% not a real answer to my question. In ANY way.
You’re right I got off on a tangent. But your question was rhetorical. Do you really want me to write a list of times when other politicians have kept their promises? Is that what you’re asking? Come on now. That’s not discourse.
That is literally the question I asked, yes.
It takes time for all of those non-profits to hire executive directors so they can solicit tax dollars to build said units. Be patient.
Definitely voting against Ryan this year. We need a huge expansion of homeless villages. The street camping "system" isn't working for anyone.
I agree. I think we also need Permanent Supportive Housing. Real housing with support services. I think we can get federal support for this.
There's a pod of 20ish shelters in St Johns by the Bachelor Club building and the Church, and another section of them (I think) in Kenton on Argyle.
Ahhh life was so much easier when we could blame Chloe Eudaly for every single thing wrong in the city.
Now apparently every single thing wrong in the city is Dan Ryan’s fault. No table at Le Pigeon? Dan Ryan. Missed that last max? Dan Ryan. Yelled at by a homeless person? Dan Ryan.
I just know that the next *single human being* to be elected will fix every single thing wrong in the city. I can’t wait for him or her to be elected
I thought it was Hardesty’s fault? 😆
Agreed, he's disappointed. Let's hear your stump speech. Why would you be more adept at making these safe rest villages happen? Or what's a better solution than the safe rest villages?
It is simple. There are only two real big advocates on council/county putting themselves out there and fighting for it against the weight of the “system”. I don’t blame Ryan, I blame the chorus of opposition to his efforts.
There is a very large battle in a square off of Kafoury/Jolin/CCEH vs. shelter advocates like Ryan, Meieran, And P4P.
It’s almost miraculous that Kafoury even publicly “supported” the concept… (I don’t think she really does) but likely went public with it just due to the damning pressure. What she supports - happens, what she doesn’t - doesn’t, without a ton of effort/tenacity/power behind it. It’s incredible how much influence she really has, especially in this genre. This article is helpful around highlighting what the public has seen in media around her actions -
If there was buy in and enthusiasm from all players, we’d get them up as fast as we did for the C-3PO setups. Sadly, Shelter expansion is under so much criticism, and so little support from those orgs with the skill set to make it happen, as they all get funding from the JOHS (with Kafoury/Jolin as the heads). You’d almost “think” the critics want it to fail (it wouldn’t surprise me if many did).
When you see them pull in “helping hands” to run the villages, you know they got nothing from the normal players, as HH and the JOHS are not friends. (That tells me they are desperate).
That’s the first significant challenge.
The second is HOW they are setup and run to appeal to the same ideology from the critics themselves, which hold that “any barriers are BAD”.
As a result, without pretty large “no camping zones” around them (not the little ones they just tried to propose) and more limits on the residents of the villages themselves around barriers, very few neighborhoods could accommodate the impact of them.
The cat is out of the bag… The way they are currently run and “aspired” to be run destroys the environment around them and the city won’t compromise on the operational setup due to the critics and the neighborhoods won’t budge and then… Surprise…. no villages.
Yes I agree with you there and I think that these many housing advocacy groups put so many specific demands on potential shelters that all efforts get blocked. It’s like perfect is the enemy of good.
Great and Applicable quote. Good ‘ol Voltaire.
This is my favorite similar idea… “Give them the third best to go on with; the second best comes too late, the best never comes."
How will you ensure neighborhoods stay safe with these villages? I don’t think it’s NIMBY-ism to have real concerns about the setup.
Honest answer is you can’t. But it’s easier to centralize services in an SRV than having hundreds of mini-camps spread across neighborhoods.
Right outside my window there’s a bike chop shop and 4 other vehicle campers. SRV won’t fix that. But it’d hopefully remove little tent pods from neighborhoods.
Giving people a steady bathroom keeps feces off the street. Giving shelters to people helps keep them safe from the elements and from other people. Keeping people in shelters instead of tents makes them less likely to be killed in a motor vehicle accident on the highway. There are many ways that shelters keep people safe.
Well yeah but no. They are notoriously under supervised. One of the safe rest villiages that popped up during the pandemic is now fighting the cities attempts to supervise the site. This is the same site where a man murdered a fellow resident and tried to burn their body in a fire pit. This whole concept that oversite is policing is rediciulous when we live in a place where homeless individuals have caused billions of dollars in personal property damage eaten by small businesses and individuals, and caused an ecological disaster that will take generations on generations to clean up. I’ve noticed a tendency for people on this sub to state a lack of empathy any time anyone makes any sense at all. Here’s the reality. There are thousands of people living on the street who would die if it were for crime and empathy. People working from within the system need to be protected from the latter. I think a lack of crime would leave room for a shit load more empathy from people.
I believe the OP is referring to the neighbors/neighborhoods the SRVs will be located. The upside is services for homeless will centralize but downside is so will drug markets and crime to pay for those drugs
I live a block away from one of them and that's been on my mind a lot lately
As if any of these new “candidates” actually have anything beyond talking pieces insulting someone else. Plans? Ha! What do you think this is, an actual intent to change the situation and not just to change who we wastes money for some other bullshit shell game to hide the (100s of millions of) dollar(s).
To be clear, I am support social services. I do not support the entire lack of accountability and transparency in where our public dollars go with these “non”profits. You know massive salaries for executives don’t count as profits? You know replacing volunteers with grifters is also not profit?
this reminds me of the movie Don't look UP...
I will continue to suggest to anyone in favor of these villages to attend city council meetings and offer up their neighborhood to host one. Might be useful to get your neighbors to sign off on approval as well. Im sure they'll all support your eagerness to choose village over home value.