tbh one of my hot fnf takes is that I think the old chart was more fun. Some parts of the newer one literally feel like they mashed random buttons, atleast old had somewhat of an understandable pattern. I can see why some ppl prefer the new one if they aren’t good at the jacks tho.
The old one is still fun, I totally agree. I much prefer the more diverse patterns of the new one, but I can totally see where your coming from. Valid Opinion
Same, I used to be here in this subreddit, I knew a lot of early mods, like Midfight Masses, Whitty, Hex, Garcello... now I don't realize what half of the people here are talking about.
It sucks man, I fell the older mods were harder too like tricky and mid fight masses were pretty damn tough and I remember when Vs zardy was one of the hardest and popular mods out there. The old times were so good lol.
It's so sad! The olden days were also the days of entirely original characters that would become loved by the community, like Whitty and Hex and Sarvente, and characters from old Newgrounds stuff like Tankman and Tricky and Eddsworld. Now every piece of media and its creator have a mod :') I remember hoping for a TheFatRat mod over a year ago. Still no TheFatRat mod, haha. Instead, we get Pibby, Poppy Playtime, and Rainbow Friends. :'D
I once played Foolhardy while I was exercising, it was one of the only rock songs I remember in old fnf
I wonder if Zardy could ever get a thrid song, who knows.
It's sad to think some people have no idea of legends like MFM, Hex, VS Bob, some might not even know VS Annie (though it did go up a little with Hazy River), Bob and Bosip (still a good mod, despite people on the team), Kapi, VS Cheeky etc.
Good mod, good people on the team, shit of a dickhead mod owner/manager.
Tbh i do wonder if AmorAltra started a normal life or just got depressed and commited suicide.
Mind Games! That mod's become one of my favorites, it's literally the reason Psych Engine exists, and yet almost no one talks about it. And not to mention Vs. Void, although that one has a bit more attention now since Week 2 came out, none of the bigger cover makers have done a Void song and it still doesn't get the recognition it deserves.
That's why we carry on its legacy through fan content.
But unfortunately, people are too busy sucking off the blue bloody hedgehog and Paint 3D models.
im a dave and bambi fan and its just become tiring seeing every like what? 10th to 15th post being like I HAT E DAVE AND BAMBLIDA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IT SUCJKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
honestly from what i've seen, the haters are a lot more annoying than the actual fans they are hating on. Cause I've only seen like a handful of D&B fans that are annoying. like it got to a point where somebody was bringing up how bad they thought D&B was because of a profile picture and proceeded to bring that same argument up every time they responded
quick thing to say, if someone doesn't like dave and bambi, that's all good. it's just when you are doing what i just described is when things start getting annoying
as a blue bloody hedgehog fan, i agree it'd be awesome to see fan content about stuff like mfm be more well known and popular, because from what i've seen it does exist, but it doesn't reach the same amount of attention as blue bloody hedgehog memes (that are more like complaints about the community rather than actual memes), even if the fan content about mfm is awesome art
Facts, almost nobody remembers anything except weeks 3 and 7, occasionally 2 and 4 but that's about it. At least they get representation unlike week 5...
I honestly think that when fnf the full ass game comes out it's gonna be called by new fans "not as good as Vs huggy wuggy" or "too hard" or smth like that
Me personally I think the full games gonna be a lot better than most mods.
It is kinda sad now, because even if you DO tell the newer fans about it they can't even play it because...you know.
So obviously I would get why some newer FnF fans would not know of MFM.
Can someone actually tdlr the story of this mess? Been here since the beginning but never bothered to look into it, but now that I remember, kind of curious.
Ok, my possibly broken english go!
So eventually when MFM released, people were complaining about its charting not being accurate or sometimes being overcharted (example: some parts of Zavodilla and some parts from Gospel). And then one day Doki Doodles (the creator) decided to make an April fools joke week for the mod, Hence introduced Selever and his song Casanova.
Unfortunately, the update was released a month late, making the fans to be confused, for some reason Sarvente at the beginning cutscene was replaced by Swap!Sarv, there were some recharts but not that really noticable, and to add it up, The engine has a weird bug where when you do a double, the next note will disappear for no reason.
This led some the fans to be furious and despise the mod, causing them to harrass Doki by sending death threats and sending NSFW art to her discord. This cause Doki to have a mental breakdown and she decided to take a break. But even that method doesn't stop the fans to harrassing her through twitter and Discord DMs. This led Doki to finally hit her boiling point and decided to cancel her mod by deleting it from Gamebanana and delete all her social media
her friend, Mike Geno, stated that the mods is officially cancelled and will never come back, but it is still ok to make art of the characters. We are not allowed to make any MFM related mods and cameos unless we have given Mike's permission but after Date Night Masses came out we can longer make MFM related mods even if ask for permission (Don't know about cameos but it is what it is).
Understandable, it's just now very rare to find good mods that isn't horror mods or base on a popular, but then again, I'm excited for Hypno's Lullaby update, Mario Madness update and Impostor V4 and we're still waiting for Week 8 so....
At times like this, I think it's just best that you ignore the fandom entirely and enjoy the mods you play or play and/or watch other games or media that you enjoy.
Highly doubt it. Mid Fight Masses was uploaded just a year and a half ago, and the characters in it are still pretty popular. It’s the same reason why newer fans know about B-Side and Whitty despite them being some of the oldest mods
To be fair, B-Sides and Whitty both got fairly recent updates with B-Sides Redux and the Psyche Engine remaster respectively. However, with MFM, its been gone from Gamebanana with no news of any potential return or remaster for quite a while now. Don't get me wrong though, your opinion is valid af.
I mean, think about it: The mod is over a year old now and its been gone from Gamebanana for pretty much that same amount of time. Sarv and Ruv haven't been in the public light in quite some time, and given the surge of what's popular in terms of mods now a days, the likelihood of a new fnf fan finding out about MFM is pretty damn low.
Yeah. It's one of the OG mods, but it's the only OG mod that isn't available to play in any form anymore. Hex got his Weekend Update, Tricky got his full week, Whitty got the Psyche Engine remaster, even Sky has appeared in new mods in some form, but Sarvente and Ruv are effectively dead in the water; the OG mod is off GameBanana and no remaster has been announced or even suggested as existing yet.
Basically people complained about the mod being overcharted so they eventually updated it to make it less so, but then people continued to complain and even started to harass the devs so when April came around they released a joke update with a new character and song that was purposefully overcharted.
However, people didn't get the joke and continued to harass them so they took the mod down from Gamebanana
(At least that's how I remember it going down. I might have gotten some details wrong but its been so long I can't fully remember)
Smoke 'Em Out Struggle got another day in the limelight with Hazy River, and Tabi's been teasing a second week update for a long time. I can't say I even know who Anders is and I was around for the Whitty days.
I really don't think they won't know about it, there's still plenty of covers nowadays that still uses a few characters from that mod, It just won't be as popular as it used to be back then.
That is true, I never said its impossible for new fnf fans to know it exists, however I will say the amount of covers that still use MFM Characters are becoming fewer and farther in between
New funkers having no clue that mods charting exists? Good, then having no clue every other aspect of it existed? Bad, everything is good about the mod except the charting
Whitty, B-Side. They were my first intros into the rhythm gaming community. Now I'm here, being able to FC songs like Crisis. It's been a journey, and I'm continuing to grow.
bro i was here from day 1, and lost interest 7 months ago bcuz of how boring it was.
sad to see a 2nd loop. (yeah you lads did innovate, but the innovations went dry too)
"Back in my day, Big ol' Bunny was the funniest thing, Madness was considered impossible without spam, and there was no drama for a good chunk of the game's duration. Now it's just mod cancellations left and right, endless drama, and people trying to milk good mods/concepts to the point that they are hated by almost everyone (Sonic.exe, Pibby, Dave & Bambi, etc)"
Holy crAP none of y'all newbies know about MFM?! Do you know about Whitty? About Ballistic being the Hardest Song? About Garcello and Hex being regarded as the only two Chill Dudes? About Tabi and Agoti going hand in hand? Holy CRAP I'm old....
In all fairness, it isnt really their fault. The OG mods have sadly begun to fade with time, slowly being buried in a pool of hedgehogs and blood stained white boys. Hence why its good that the OG fans keep their legacy alive with memories
I’ve been here since week 2 and still remember when I got the sky mod off of a school computer, what do you mean new FNF players don’t know about the old mods
new fans don’t know about the old ballistic chart,,,,,,
I still have flashbacks.... All those jacks....
tbh one of my hot fnf takes is that I think the old chart was more fun. Some parts of the newer one literally feel like they mashed random buttons, atleast old had somewhat of an understandable pattern. I can see why some ppl prefer the new one if they aren’t good at the jacks tho.
The old one is still fun, I totally agree. I much prefer the more diverse patterns of the new one, but I can totally see where your coming from. Valid Opinion
the superior ballistic chart*
[Good mod here](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xGpvUgcuhNoTe0wbkdiugX9yEJZEX8_i/view).
As someone who's been here from the beggining, that's pretty depressing-
Welcome to the club
Same, I used to be here in this subreddit, I knew a lot of early mods, like Midfight Masses, Whitty, Hex, Garcello... now I don't realize what half of the people here are talking about.
Bob and Popipo or whatever its called
Nobody talks about that anymore because the creators did very horrible things (bob and bossip) and the game was removed from gamebanna.
No not bob and bosip that other one with that purple-haired white-skinned lady in the skid and pump week
I have no idea
I feel you man...
Same
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Yep, it's a real shame that newer fans have to get introduced to fnf with: OMG RAINBOW FRIENDS FNF HUGGY WUGGY PIBBY OMMGGG!1!1!
It sucks man, I fell the older mods were harder too like tricky and mid fight masses were pretty damn tough and I remember when Vs zardy was one of the hardest and popular mods out there. The old times were so good lol.
It's so sad! The olden days were also the days of entirely original characters that would become loved by the community, like Whitty and Hex and Sarvente, and characters from old Newgrounds stuff like Tankman and Tricky and Eddsworld. Now every piece of media and its creator have a mod :') I remember hoping for a TheFatRat mod over a year ago. Still no TheFatRat mod, haha. Instead, we get Pibby, Poppy Playtime, and Rainbow Friends. :'D
"I was the first! I have seen EVERYTHING!" -Whithered Chica
Agreed
Indubitably
Same, here since January (2021 ofc lol)
Same since whitty
True
As someone who joined about 2 months after it started, I agree
Same
We all do. I joined in the fandom since liike idk 2020 november or somewhere there its pretty saddening
Indeed
Agreed
Too true
Same
Yall remember lucky boy? Only real ones know who he is.
Yea, he's in the files, i'm a sucker for unused content
And hex, I feel like hex was forgotten
Same could be said for Cyrix. Dude finally got an update a few weeks ago and I haven't seen a single person make a video about it
Anders, Cyrix, Hex, so many mods that were really popular but now completely forgotten
True goats left behind by time
what about tricky? nothing new about that one either
Tricky is still remembered because of the shit ton of madness combat mods.
Too many, might i add
Compared to the others, tricky doesn't feel as forgotten
could possibly do the same for whitty ig
Somewhat. Though the Psych Engine remaster I feel hes still somewhat well known
Whitty started hard fnf mods so he will prob be remembered but mostly as history
while he started hard FNF songs, ballistic is fairly easy by current mod standards
Which is a shame both are some of my favorite mods
didn't it have a remix update planned?
I found it hard to listen to Hex.
Basically almost all the OGs have been forgotten, haven't they :')
Zardy. Not enough zardy around here
I once played Foolhardy while I was exercising, it was one of the only rock songs I remember in old fnf I wonder if Zardy could ever get a thrid song, who knows.
It got one, I believe. No idea if it's official or not tho. The one with gaslights
It's sad to think some people have no idea of legends like MFM, Hex, VS Bob, some might not even know VS Annie (though it did go up a little with Hazy River), Bob and Bosip (still a good mod, despite people on the team), Kapi, VS Cheeky etc.
I will never forget arcade showdown
Good mod, good people on the team, shit of a dickhead mod owner/manager. Tbh i do wonder if AmorAltra started a normal life or just got depressed and commited suicide.
Bro Kapi was the freaking best
Mind Games! That mod's become one of my favorites, it's literally the reason Psych Engine exists, and yet almost no one talks about it. And not to mention Vs. Void, although that one has a bit more attention now since Week 2 came out, none of the bigger cover makers have done a Void song and it still doesn't get the recognition it deserves.
That's why we carry on its legacy through fan content. But unfortunately, people are too busy sucking off the blue bloody hedgehog and Paint 3D models.
Oh they ain't just sucking, they're giving that gobble wobble gwak gwak primo mega 5000
Nah, they're giving him the glucc gluc riggedy riddly riddle roo yoinkily sploinkily fiddly diddle diddle gobble 69000
im a dave and bambi fan and its just become tiring seeing every like what? 10th to 15th post being like I HAT E DAVE AND BAMBLIDA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IT SUCJKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
honestly from what i've seen, the haters are a lot more annoying than the actual fans they are hating on. Cause I've only seen like a handful of D&B fans that are annoying. like it got to a point where somebody was bringing up how bad they thought D&B was because of a profile picture and proceeded to bring that same argument up every time they responded quick thing to say, if someone doesn't like dave and bambi, that's all good. it's just when you are doing what i just described is when things start getting annoying
as a blue bloody hedgehog fan, i agree it'd be awesome to see fan content about stuff like mfm be more well known and popular, because from what i've seen it does exist, but it doesn't reach the same amount of attention as blue bloody hedgehog memes (that are more like complaints about the community rather than actual memes), even if the fan content about mfm is awesome art
They've probably seen Ruv, Sarv, and Selever around, but they might not know who Razazy is.
Ehhh, idk. You only really see the MFM crew in BETADCIU covers, but even then people barely seem to use them anymore
I think DokkiDoodles actually asked cover makers not to use them anymore? I'm not sure on the details.
Oh, really? I haven't kept up with Dokki, but thats very interesting if thats true
That’s the sad reality about OC mod, a lot of people don’t really pay attention to them anymore.
Yet, everyone cries about how they want more of them
Newer FNF fans might have no idea that the original game existed
Facts, almost nobody remembers anything except weeks 3 and 7, occasionally 2 and 4 but that's about it. At least they get representation unlike week 5...
I honestly think that when fnf the full ass game comes out it's gonna be called by new fans "not as good as Vs huggy wuggy" or "too hard" or smth like that Me personally I think the full games gonna be a lot better than most mods.
vs huggy wuggy is tied for the worst mod in existence with MCM
I have never thought of that because- I already forgot...
I already forgot about its existence...
It is kinda sad now, because even if you DO tell the newer fans about it they can't even play it because...you know. So obviously I would get why some newer FnF fans would not know of MFM.
Can someone actually tdlr the story of this mess? Been here since the beginning but never bothered to look into it, but now that I remember, kind of curious.
Ok, my possibly broken english go! So eventually when MFM released, people were complaining about its charting not being accurate or sometimes being overcharted (example: some parts of Zavodilla and some parts from Gospel). And then one day Doki Doodles (the creator) decided to make an April fools joke week for the mod, Hence introduced Selever and his song Casanova. Unfortunately, the update was released a month late, making the fans to be confused, for some reason Sarvente at the beginning cutscene was replaced by Swap!Sarv, there were some recharts but not that really noticable, and to add it up, The engine has a weird bug where when you do a double, the next note will disappear for no reason. This led some the fans to be furious and despise the mod, causing them to harrass Doki by sending death threats and sending NSFW art to her discord. This cause Doki to have a mental breakdown and she decided to take a break. But even that method doesn't stop the fans to harrassing her through twitter and Discord DMs. This led Doki to finally hit her boiling point and decided to cancel her mod by deleting it from Gamebanana and delete all her social media her friend, Mike Geno, stated that the mods is officially cancelled and will never come back, but it is still ok to make art of the characters. We are not allowed to make any MFM related mods and cameos unless we have given Mike's permission but after Date Night Masses came out we can longer make MFM related mods even if ask for permission (Don't know about cameos but it is what it is).
That's rather sad, actually. Why are people so obsessed with harassing random people?
It was during the time when FNF was good and gold until the "Fans" decided to ruin it.
I played back then, and it is honestly a fun game, but now, all people really do is post bad sonic mods and the game really just fell off for me
Not to mention the low amount of official content
Understandable, it's just now very rare to find good mods that isn't horror mods or base on a popular, but then again, I'm excited for Hypno's Lullaby update, Mario Madness update and Impostor V4 and we're still waiting for Week 8 so.... At times like this, I think it's just best that you ignore the fandom entirely and enjoy the mods you play or play and/or watch other games or media that you enjoy.
Highly doubt it. Mid Fight Masses was uploaded just a year and a half ago, and the characters in it are still pretty popular. It’s the same reason why newer fans know about B-Side and Whitty despite them being some of the oldest mods
To be fair, B-Sides and Whitty both got fairly recent updates with B-Sides Redux and the Psyche Engine remaster respectively. However, with MFM, its been gone from Gamebanana with no news of any potential return or remaster for quite a while now. Don't get me wrong though, your opinion is valid af.
Is FNF getting new fans at all? It doesn't really feel like it
Id assume so
It most likely is, but for the most part, it's just sensitive kids who heard about it on YouTube unfortunately
And it is a damn shame
With how popular those mods got on yt, I doubt they’re gonna fade away anytime soon but alright
[удалено]
I'm afraid its true, my friend...
What's sad is that I was waiting for the Downscroll update before playing it, and it closed instead.
As a guy who’s been here before even whittys first song, it’s depressing…
Wait they don't!?
I mean, think about it: The mod is over a year old now and its been gone from Gamebanana for pretty much that same amount of time. Sarv and Ruv haven't been in the public light in quite some time, and given the surge of what's popular in terms of mods now a days, the likelihood of a new fnf fan finding out about MFM is pretty damn low.
Now that makes alotta sense... This is an outrage
Yeah, its pretty unfortunate
Yeah. It's one of the OG mods, but it's the only OG mod that isn't available to play in any form anymore. Hex got his Weekend Update, Tricky got his full week, Whitty got the Psyche Engine remaster, even Sky has appeared in new mods in some form, but Sarvente and Ruv are effectively dead in the water; the OG mod is off GameBanana and no remaster has been announced or even suggested as existing yet.
Dont worry, fanartist made sure that wont happen
You mean the ones on Twitter that speak Japanese and make very good artwork of Sarv in various outfits? Because if so, that is a very good point
Those too. And there are some english speaking ones who make cute as heck RuvxSarv art. Especially after the entity reveal
Aww, sweet! Glad to see there's still some representation out there
mods these days fell off idc what anyone says, the peak of mods was prob around jan-may 2021
Agreed with stuff like zardy and garcello and tricky beta. It was fucking grest
they'll know about it eventually
same for friday night foundation
No, bad brain
What happened to mid fight masses anyway?
Basically people complained about the mod being overcharted so they eventually updated it to make it less so, but then people continued to complain and even started to harass the devs so when April came around they released a joke update with a new character and song that was purposefully overcharted. However, people didn't get the joke and continued to harass them so they took the mod down from Gamebanana (At least that's how I remember it going down. I might have gotten some details wrong but its been so long I can't fully remember)
deleted for reasons I won't say.
o7 to one of the mod classics
Damn. That’s depressing. They also won’t know that there was more bangers in the beginning.
Zavodilla and Casanova my beloved
Damn b-
Hey, ain't you Nathaniel B?
Nuhh I'm PineappleKhing silly😮💨
real
no way
No way, fnf youtube is full of mfm and sky.
Sky much more than MFM. I can't tell you the last time I saw a video with MFM characters in it
oh god why put the thought in my head
I remember when That mod was new, and now that I’m seeing this, I feel like the SpongeBob grandmother remembering what chocolate is
... why did you have to make me realize this
I hope this isn’t true
Hell, same could be said for the fuckin base game for some maybe
Same with stuff like Garcello's Smoke em Out Struggle, Vs Anders, and Vs Tabi
Smoke 'Em Out Struggle got another day in the limelight with Hazy River, and Tabi's been teasing a second week update for a long time. I can't say I even know who Anders is and I was around for the Whitty days.
I believe there was also a Psyche Engine remaster of VS Tabi for his 1 year anniversary. Though, a lot of folks seemed to skip out on it
I really don't think they won't know about it, there's still plenty of covers nowadays that still uses a few characters from that mod, It just won't be as popular as it used to be back then.
That is true, I never said its impossible for new fnf fans to know it exists, however I will say the amount of covers that still use MFM Characters are becoming fewer and farther in between
Mid fight masses… people harassing and bullying the artist who had nothing to do with the charting…
o7
HOLY FUCK
unless they visit the "you know what" subreddit
Haven't been there in a hot minute. Is Sarv...ahem..."artwork" still made often?
Idk I just heard it from a shitpost
now that's a name I haven't heard in a long time.
My point exactly
vs shaggy and vs matt
still popular (fnf pros play it)
Fair enough
Shaggy's a stepping stone for 6 and 7 key rhythm game charts and Matt's infamous for having absurdly overcharted songs.
i havent seen them in a while though
In the words of selever 🖕
Also that one Ben Drowned mod
Zardy :(
Oh my god noo
So?
New funkers having no clue that mods charting exists? Good, then having no clue every other aspect of it existed? Bad, everything is good about the mod except the charting
I know it exists, and I still have the game files for it before it gotten taken off of gamebanana.
Same here
The same will happen for every mod eventually, unless people keep milking triple trouble for all it's worth.
Whitty, B-Side. They were my first intros into the rhythm gaming community. Now I'm here, being able to FC songs like Crisis. It's been a journey, and I'm continuing to grow.
Nor tricky..
bro i was here from day 1, and lost interest 7 months ago bcuz of how boring it was. sad to see a 2nd loop. (yeah you lads did innovate, but the innovations went dry too)
I’ve been a fan since 2020 but left at like, this summer. I may come back but ignore the community and play the games on my disgusting pc
"Back in my day, Big ol' Bunny was the funniest thing, Madness was considered impossible without spam, and there was no drama for a good chunk of the game's duration. Now it's just mod cancellations left and right, endless drama, and people trying to milk good mods/concepts to the point that they are hated by almost everyone (Sonic.exe, Pibby, Dave & Bambi, etc)"
we have to make a list of mods for newer players to play like a trip down memory lane
Holy crAP none of y'all newbies know about MFM?! Do you know about Whitty? About Ballistic being the Hardest Song? About Garcello and Hex being regarded as the only two Chill Dudes? About Tabi and Agoti going hand in hand? Holy CRAP I'm old....
Same 😔
Just tell them it was the mod that wanted you to grow more fingers just for them to break
Not a big loss tbh
the ogs are chads the new people are dumb
i love gatekeeping
In all fairness, it isnt really their fault. The OG mods have sadly begun to fade with time, slowly being buried in a pool of hedgehogs and blood stained white boys. Hence why its good that the OG fans keep their legacy alive with memories
Mhm, gatekeeping
me whos knows mfm:ummm yeah
Thank god.
Finally, all is as it should be
NOOO
Its an easy 10/10 mod, the charting was a bit trashy, but the songs are bangers.
You're right! 🙁
Mfm is the sole reason why im friends with the people im rlly close to rn
💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
Vs Neon, no one remember this epik mod
Oh no. They will never know best nun\* D: *\*After Taki ;)*
Yep. Sarvente the #1 best nun
R.I.P Mid Fight Masses... I used to be a fan of MFM since mid-2021.
been here ever since it was just week 1-4 quite depressing
Normal people does not play fnf
what? people who plays fnf are abnormal already? What kind of a logic is that.
all because the fnf community is home to some of the shittiest people
Kinda sad.
hey do you guys remember Date Night Masses Why does no one ever talk about it
What happened to mfm?
But they may know about Vs Mouse RT
Bruh it's only been like 2 years I already feel old
I think one of the only og mods to still be popular to this day is Vs Dave
I’ve been here since week 2 and still remember when I got the sky mod off of a school computer, what do you mean new FNF players don’t know about the old mods
sed