You can’t help someone who doesn’t want to be helped. I would let him do his thing. You may have outgrown him as a friend.

it's a real shame though, I can see him regretting all of this, but he is to be behind in everything. I probably did outgrow him i just needed to hear it

At what point did you become his mom?

perhaps you are right, i treat others how I want to be treated but he is really going down a wrong path

That doesn't answer my question.

very funny, i thought this was supposed to be helpful

U are a really good friend who's trying his best, but since a person doesn't want to be helped u can't do anything and u won't change anything unfortunately.

thanks, ig i just needed to hear it

Telling is never enough. This shit works on emotional level. You need to show him if you really care.

HOW?!! ive literally done everything from trying to get him to a better school to help him study he just goes right back

show him success stories and failure stories using reddit

at this point not even David Goggins could help him be motivated

obviously something is off then

His life, his business. You can not tell other people how to live their lives.

you know what your right i should stop giving a damn

You weren't giving a damn, you were trying to tell him how to run his life, it is his life, not yours. Had he come to you asking for help that is different, but you were offering unsolicted advice that he never asked for. You can't force other people to be how you think they should be.