Scranton Strangler Strikes Again
By - daniel-mca
It's not Toby. It's never the person you most suspect. It's also never the person you least suspect. Therefore, I know the Scranton Strangler is Phyllis, the person I most medium suspect.
What about the guy who owns Vance Refrigeration? What was his name again?
You have a lot to learn about this town, sweetie.
Haha my wife and I constantly say this to each other.
I love how she says this, it’s now how I say it. I’m not American, is this an accent thing? I tried asking an American I know but she just seemed confused by the question
Also not American but I think it’s just her accent.
I am wheezing at this
What line of work you in Bob?
Boy have you lost your mind? Cause I'll help you find it
What you looking over there for? Nobody gonna help you JeeeEEESUS could walk through that door...
Close your mouth sweetie, you look like a trout.
Bob Vance, Vance Refrigeration!
What business you in Bob.
Guess they don't teach everything in business school.
I loved Ryan in this moment.
I've been dipping back in and watching shows in order and I find myself appreciating Ryan so much more. Of course I can't think of a specific moment other than this one, but I was mulling that yesterday when I watched the episode where he uses a fancy office for his interview and talks about being a 'wunderkind'.
I wonder if it has to do with how much I've grown to like BJ Novak as a writer?
So what do you do?
> Bob Vance, Vance Refrigeration
You have a lot to learn about this town, ^resp Sweetie.
I think we can all agree it's either Gabe or Angela. [Flips coin] It's Angela. Get her, boys.
Hiya pumpkin, we're gonna ditch this bitch. You in?
Pumpkin's out, let's go gang!
Low key one of my favourite lines.
Fun fact if you don't listen to Office Ladies podcast, Creed actually calls Angela this in real life because of this line from the show.
You mean Andrea? The office bitch?
No way. Which episode?
Didn't creed show up to a Halloween party covered in real blood though?
We don't even know what species blood that was. He could have taken a walking tour of the Scranton Abattoir before work.
That's not a detail I can casually dismiss like that when all of the other theories are like "it's toby because he's creepy." Its the only piece of hard evidence in the whole show.
But I want cookie
“By now you probably realize that Beatrix bourbon was the killer...”
Phyllis: “Michael I was doing so well :((((“
There was a deleted scene where she admitted to having killed a guy.
It couldn't be because there is an episode where the police are chasing the strangler and she's with the others looking out the window watching it.
Actually I seem to remember him being caught but I could be wrong.
That's just what a criminal mastermind would want you to think
*George Howard Skub was an inside job. Look into it!*
I thought it was Creed until two things, one the thing where a writer (Or someone I don't remember who) said he never had the strength to kill his victims(Creed is definitely a killer), and then The Office Youtube posted a video called "Makings of a strangler" or something and it's all about the Scranton Strangler and clips of Toby.
To be fair, Toby was convinced the guy caught was the wrong one, and Creed said they got the wrong guy, so the guy caught probably wasn't the strangler, so he could be there and be the strangler.
You think that was the real strangler?
There are two Scranton Stranglers working together so they always have an alibi.
No, it was Gabe. Perfectly medium.
Top 5 scene of the entire series.
I literally read that in Dwight's voice.
This comment emits mega Michael Scott energy
Well to be fair to the new guy, it does sound like something Michael would say.
It's a direct quote from Dwight.
Thank you Scranton Strangler. I love you! You just took one more person's breath away.
I was just saying this line to myself earlier at work as I swept !!!!
I love the ones that include the car looking like a car parked in the parking lot which could have been Toby’s. Considering they caught the man driving that car, I really don’t see how that supports the theory that it was actually Toby.
I always like the theory that Toby went into jail to talk shit to the guy about him taking the fall for Toby's crime, and him snapping and attacking Toby.
I don't really subscribe to it, but it's fun to think about.
I like to think that Toby choked himself to make George Howard Skub look even more guilty. After all, it was Toby’s hand around his own throat.
Even deeper: the doc crew cut it specifically that way to preserve Toby's identity
I didn't know that was his hand lmfao that's fantastic
I also like the detail in that the strangler attacks didn’t start (or at least weren’t heard of) until after Toby came back from Costa Rica. And that’s where he, you guessed it, broke his neck. Possibly where he gets the idea to strangle? I don’t know, it’s small details like that which makes it interesting. But it’s all theory.
Yes, definitely. Again, I don't think this is accurate, but it's a fan theory that just keeps giving. I have never heard that specific piece of evidence, and boy is it compelling.
I read a few days ago that Toby's accident could have been a failed suicide attempt, which kinda builds onto what you're saying about him having snapped after Costa Rica.
I'm actually showing my girl the show for the first time ever. She definitely doesn't love it the way I do, but she's only in season 2. They've only made her cry a little bit so far.
This watch I'm kinda hyper focused on how Toby's life is literal dog shit to the degree that he doesn't want "ex" added to his ex wife's name on his emergency contact form. He's constantly destroyed by words and sent away from all human interaction (besides Kelly, but... That's not helping anyone). It's pretty sad, and makes a good case for him being the strangler.
exactly! it’s just fun dissecting details to fit the narrative of a different story even though it’s not the intended narrative. another example would be Michael literally calls him “the silent killer” in season 5 when Toby says radon and asbestos are the silent killers, and Toby replies with “you’ll see” lmao. of course he’s most likely saying that because the radon and asbestos will catch up with everyone, but it’s funny thinking he could be saying that because Toby really is a silent killer and that was a threat of violence rather a warning.
My god, it just keeps going lmfao.
I'm glad they've never offered a true explanation on this. I always thought the golden light in the end of pulp fiction was Elvis's gold suit, then Quentin put the kibosh on that. It's like "what the hell man, let me dream!"
People are hoping Jenna addresses it in her podcast, I hope they leave it ambiguous forever.
I think he says he realized then how fragile the neck is (I could be wrong tho)
The writers on this show were brilliant. You don’t think they might’ve left subtle clues or wrote the show in a way that made fans speculate? I think there’s an answer, and only Craig Daniels & Co. knows. Jenna and Angela’s podcast has got to address it when it comes up. I think that’s the best chance we have at a definitive answer.
It's like the end to Pulp Fiction, it's for you to decide!
I respect that. There’s some things I like being left alone. Like the teapot note. Jenna was holding back tears talking about what it said, but she refused to read it. She said it was a note from John about how much it meant to work with her. But I don’t think we should ever get to know exactly what it said. Let it be a beautiful mystery. I have no problem with the Scranton strangler being in that group.
Just like what Bill Murray whispered into Scarlet Johansson’s ear at then end of Lost In Translation. I’m tearing up just thinking about it.
Sounds like the Michael/Pam airport scene to me
In this interview Paul lieberstein originally says the idea of Toby being the Scranton stranger was never talked about among the writers, but then plays into the mystery of "maybe it did" for the fun of the theory. But it sounds like the show was never really written with the subplot of Toby being the Scranton stranger at all.
It could be coincidence but I always think of the car and the fact that Toby was absent during the strangler chase. The logic of him being caught then coming back to the office precludes that. But the ramifications, like Toby being a juror and getting strangled by the strangler, become a little more fun if you buy into the theory. The writers are still amazing tho.
I like the theory that it's Andy.
I don’t think he would endanger his gift to Pam and Tuna’s baby like that. He had to put the updated newspaper about the Scranton Strangler Striking Again instead of the Spring has Sprung newspaper
Don’t you think he might’ve planned it to be the day after it but then she was born late?
Toby uses a pencil in one episode, we see the Scranton Strangler wrote something in pencil once too! Toby is SS confirmed!
We need those Flendrson Files! ^Flenderson ^files...
My biggest problem with the theory is that the guy chokes Toby when he visits him in jail. I feel like if most people were to attack someone, they would punch them, unless they were a strangler.
Although the way Toby holds his neck afterwards is not a comforting way to hold a neck, I could be missing something about that though, it's possible Toby admitted it, it's also possible the guy in the prison was A strangler but not THE strangler, one final possibility is he could've done that to make it seem less like it was him if the guy in prison owed him or something.
The cars do prove it though. If you watch Booze Cruise part one, right at the beginning you see Tobe exiting his car. It’s the exact same make and model that we see later in The Job (aka the beach trip episode) driven by one of the warehouse guys, I forget his name. This is important because in the paper that Andy frames for Cece, “The Scranton Strangler Strikes Again” article it says, “shove it up your butt!”
Yeah it’s really stupid. Lots of people drive the same kind of car lol
George Howard Skub tried to strangle at least one person
The real strangler would have succeeded.
Don't say that name.
That's a Devil-name
I think Creed at least knows who the strangler is.
He DOES say they got the wrong guy, but Creed is crazy and a murderer so... That doesn't say much.
After all the last person to cross Creed did die. His name? Creed Bratton.
It's his friend, William Charles Schneider
I think creed is the zodiac killer. I mean he said himself, he used to make love outdoors in the 60s and it’s possible that some men slipped in, but there’d be no way of knowing.
“It’s Halloween…. That is…. Really good timing”
Gabe: Oh, I didn't know everyone dressed up for Halloween
Creed covered in blood: What's Halloween?
It was Plop who said the first line
Everyone knows Ernesto did it. That empanada making bastard had murder in his eyes I tell ya!
Ernesto made it clear he doesn't want any trouble.
Yes. So when trouble gets in his way, he _gets rid_ of the trouble.
I actually have a theory I've been cooking for awhile about Michael using the office to launder money, it involves him hiring Kevin to cook the books, and Ryan to climb the ranks. And a key point would be his office showing profit while every other branch is failing and then the company ends up going bankrupt it's just a fun theory I started thinking about after watching it the millionth time.
personally, i would shoot down Ryan and Michael having any involvement, although that is a fun theory. But the accounting team creating fake numbers is a well-known theory.
Ryan prob found it out doing his own scheme and was able to leverage the info to get the executive job
Doesn’t Kevin say at one point that’s what he does every day after he talks to the other guy about why he went to jail?
Eh I think Kevin confused embezzlement/fraud with his own use of "Keleven" to get out of work on time.
It gets you home by 7
Wasn't it Oscar who had to stay late and get home at 7? "Kevin left at 4:45 that day" or something was part of the punchline
Season 3 Kevin had different methods than Season 9 Kevin
This theory involves Michael intentionally acting stupid while being really smart, he screws over Jan and protects the company, he hangs out with Ryan in new York and you might argue that Ryan was high on drugs didn't remember he was being filmed and acted like his normal self around Michael instead of acting like the boss and giving Michael a tough time. This is just a fun theory that I've concocted because I literally watch every day, I don't think the writers were meaning for any of this it's just a different way of looking at the show and if you go in for a fresh watch with it in mind you might notice some things you didn't before.
Now theories about Gabe being the Strangler, sign me up. Dude definitely gives me a serial attempted murder vibe.
Oh 100% they even mentioned in an interview that the Scranton Strangler never killed anyone and Gabe would be to weak to strangle someone to death
Shut up about the weakness, shut UP about the weakness!!
He strangles them with sound.
Came here for the Gabe theory. 100%
I agree! I remember seeing a very detailed theory about him being the Scranton Strangler her awhile ago and it all makes sense and I can’t look at another theory the same way again
Isnt he only very rarely in Scranton?
That we know of... he’s rarely at the office, so that leaves a lot of time for “activities”.
You see how he eats toast? Dudes definitely a killer.
He would even settle for apricot preserves, THE ANIMAL.
He looks like someone starved a virgin to death
We all know it's Devon
We know why they call him Devon. It’s clearly a combination of the words “Devil” and “Demon”
Devon? I thought his name was Shadow or Garth
I remember someone on this subreddit wrote a whole essay about how it was actually Andy… and they convinced me. Toby is too conflict averse to be the Scranton Strangler.
Same. When you rewatch it thinking Andy is the Scranton Strangler it all sorta makes sense too.
Where’s the post??
Here you go. Some of it is far fetched, but some points are incredibly convincing. I like the point that Toby was actually on vacation during two of the murders. It can’t be him.
Holy shit, I am totally on board.
As far as the "real" strangler having strangled Toby when he went to visit, I think it's very possible that the guy they got was a copycat killer who killed only 1 or 2 people, and they pinned all the rest of the Scranton Strangler murders on him.
The Scranton strangler never killed anyone, I don’t remember where the creators said this, but they said that his signature move was strangling but never finishing the job.
Well where's the fun in that?
Dwight, is that you?
How do we know for sure that this wasn't written by Toby to confuse us
well that was a fun read, thanks. been a few years since i've watched it on repeat but this is making me want to watch it with fresh eyes
This may point to the fact that Andy acapellagroup is a group of rapists. LUL WUT.
Toby doesn't want conflict with his victims. He just wants them dead.
I thought it was obvious that it is Dennis Reynolds.
The real killer… is Mac!
PepperJack loves FraggleRock.
*borat voice* very nice
I’ll get the chainsaw
Nah it was a painter and a psycho clown
Nah hes just datin a tranny
Maybe they figured out it was creed the whole time and that’s why he was arrested.
I always HATE the Toby being the strangler theories. He goes to visit the strangler in prison and comes out having gotten nearly strangled to death. (Obviously Toby isn’t the strangler if he got strangled) 😂
They say he went to visit him and told the prisoner that HE was the real strangler and that's why the prisoner choked him.
And Mindy Kaling said Toby isn't the strangler.
I know who I'm listening to.
Also: "A new member posting about how Jim and/or Pam are actually bad people."
I was predicting it was going to be revealed to be creed on the last episode
You have a lot to learn about this sub, sweetie.
I like to think that Michael was supposed to find out and nobody would believe him since he hates Toby
The new guy about to post this:
- why are you the way that you are? Honestly every time I try to do sth fun or exciting, you make it not that way. I hate so much about the things you choose to be
It’s Deangelo. Prove me wrong.
Nate in blackface confirmed, got it
I know the real answer is that they never felt the need to flesh out the story but I’m 100% convinced that early on they were planning on revealing it to be Gabe. The first time we hear about the Strangler is shortly after he moved to town and that dude was a straight up creep.
**shut up about the Scranton strangler….SHUT UP ABOUT THE SCRANTON STRANGLER**
I haven't seen anybody accuse Jan yet. Why not Jan? She's got plenty of time off from her zero benefits "job"
Nice try, Toby
TED CRUZ IS THE SCRANTON STRANGLER
The SS chose his victims by their reaction to him flashing them… Phyllis’ reaction saved her life.
So I found evidence that Toby was the Scranton Strangler, here take it… and shove it up your butt
I like the post suspecting Gabe is the SS. His behavior at Robert California’s pool party was a bit off- lol!
There's literally an episode where Toby actually gets *strangled* by the Strangler.
He survived, much to Michael's disappointment.
It was the IT Guy 100%
However. Ryan started the fire
About Micheal actually being a smart and amazing manager
Can anyone explain this theory, I've heard it mentioned a lot
But I haven't actually heard it
Have you lost your damn mind?!
It’s fellow Philadelphian Dennis Reynolds.
Check out his tools in the trunk.
“TOOLS! TOOLS!, DUCT TAPE, ZIP TIES, GLOVES, I LIKE TO BIND!!!!! I HAVE TO HAVE MY TOOLS!!!”
If Toby was the Scranton Strangler then Michael would be dead.
Same could be said about Creed being under rated.
It’s definitely Kevin tho right?
I’m well past this theory and mostly just wanna know what happened to the guy that was very likely wrongfully accused of the Strangler’s crimes lol.
It's More and Dwight knows it
I cackled out loud at this!
If Toby was the strangler, Michael would be dead.
It was CeeCee
This is a good meme. Thought I would say.
Not even gonna lie, I stole this guys idea. Thought if the Strangler posts as soon as i seen it. https://www.reddit.com/r/IASIP/comments/ok651q/a_hot_button_issue/
In Michael Scott's Dunder Mifflin Scranton Meredith Palmer Memorial Celebrity Rabies Awareness Fun Run Pro Am Race for the Cure.
Bro it was Micheal!!! After he left the show the show went on. There are two major clues proving it was Micheal after His character left the show. I tried telling my family but no one believes me. I can prove it.
Creed is the Scranton Strangler.
Toby did it, dammit
Jim is the most likely office worker to be the strangler.
Before the Superfan cut it was easily the most cringe episode. It physically hurt to watch. Now I think that Phylss’ wedding is worse, though Michael going to business school had some really cringe moments too.
This is so true