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mikanposting

Super Tankie, pol pot was not a communist


NIcholaswardwell

pol wasn’t a socialist he used that to lure people in


ImpossibleEgg420

omg just like funny austrian painter


Frixxed

Or funny North Korean king


parwa

I don't think Emperor Sunjong ever claimed to be a socialist, nor was he from the North


Sunibor

I think they're alluding to the Kim dynasty


parwa

Nothing gets past you huh


rolldamnhawkeyes

Who? You mean the dude that isn’t even the head of state??? Dumbass idiot


ToadBup

Kims a King youre right but not the head of state of Nk


CitizenFoffie

Semantics aside he still holds power


ToadBup

Its not semantics im calling him a chad


Frixxed

Well the goal is still to abolish all monarchs anyways, so he should get the guillotine.


ToadBup

.....King as in "chad" You dont actually think he is part of a monarchy right?


Frixxed

👢😛


ToadBup

I thought better of you


rolldamnhawkeyes

Why? They have a rose emoji


ToadBup

Oh i didnt see that


merrygomarry

Succdems, well known anarchists. Lol.


brattyprincessslut

Do you watch Sky News? They have an app for your iPad


Frixxed

Ew no. I don't watch conservative bullshit. Also I don't use apple.


brattyprincessslut

So CNN then?


Frixxed

No. I'm not a fucking liberal, and certainly not a capitalist. fuck off redfash


A2755

You are a liberal, though, only libs say “redfash” unironically, and only libs think the DPRK is a monarchy


American_Communist22

Why would you ever go to 4? Pol pot was an idiot, good thing Vietnam got to him.


Refined_Kettle

true, Hồ Chí Minh is a hero, i’m glad they got Kampuchea where it hurts


American_Communist22

[happy cake day!!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyE1_0itU84)


Refined_Kettle

thank you comrade


onlysummittofelix

Ikr but now the cambodians on tiktok says that we just got to pol pot cuz we want to take their lands


Sunibor

Wasn't it Kampuchea who attacked Vietnam first, even?


onlysummittofelix

And yes you're right, the Chinese supported them to invade us.


LeftRat

I've met people on Reddit that absolutely do defend Pol Pot, though. And they clothe it in sort of a cheap version of the usual appeals - "why would you believe western propaganda" "don't you think if that's the official version it might be wrong"


parwa

>"why would you believe western propaganda" This is hilarious to me, I hear the same from Gonzalo supporters but both men were very openly like "yeah I did that and it was good actually"


Numbr80

And those people are feds.


LeftRat

I don't think that's a helpful bit of reasoning. The internet is vast and thinking yourself a socialist doesn't make you immune from being a shitty idiot - we should deal with the fact that like in any socialist movement, we have toxic elements we have to purge ourselves from in order to go forward.


MRTA03

TIL Vietnamese is western propaganda


No_Personality7725

2-3 But guys seriously, wasn't the Khemer rougge like aided by the US at some points?


merrygomarry

Yes


ThePoopOutWest

One of the higher ups in the party admitted none of them had ever read marx. As you saw in vietnam, Marxism was very popular amongst the people of Southeast Asia. Pol Pot was an opportunist


gabriielsc

>One of the higher ups in the party admitted none of them had ever read marx. damn every time I learn something about the Khmer Rouge it gets even worse do you have a source for this?


ThePoopOutWest

As an all around source, [this](https://msuweb.montclair.edu/~furrg/pol/khmerrouge.html) is a good essay on the Khmer Rouge. However you can find the quote [here](https://www.midwesternmarx.com/articles/book-review-essay-pol-pot-anatomy-of-a-nightmare-by-philip-short-reviewed-by-thomas-riggins). > Here is Pol Pot talking about his “Marxism”. “The big thick words of Marx… I didn’t really understand them at all.” Ping Say (one of the founders of the CPK) remarked “Marx was too deep for us.”


gabriielsc

thank you, I'm going to read that! that quote is ridiculous, I honestly can't understand how does anyone support Pol Pot/ the Khmer Rouge


ComradeClout

They were installed by the CIA


Numbr80

And removed by communist Vietnam.


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Numbr80

What's that have to do with Vietnam removing the Khmer Rouge.


ProbalyANerd

Adding stuff to fill the list l:


egamIroorriM

sauce plox


roquinloco

[Elemental Comrade](https://youtu.be/jWsx2iqO1ks)


cloggednueron

We’re they really? I’ve never heard about that. I knew the US started helping them once the Vietnamese toppled their government, but before I’m pretty sure the US fought them. I guess you learn something new every day.


[deleted]

Lie.


DerAlgebraiker

You post to /r/Anarcho_capitalism. You wouldn't know the truth if it slapped you with a baseball bat


somemobud

[Really?](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_United_States_support_for_the_Khmer_Rouge)


[deleted]

Yes. This is false information from one journalist. Not concensus by any means.


somemobud

That's so weird, I thought the US voted to keep the Khmer in power for 10 years after they were ousted by Vietnam and China. I must have misremembered that one.


Zorsus

Yeah most tankies (or at least the ones I've known) don't like the Khmer Rouge but also recognize that we should remember to highlight the crimes of US imperialism in Cambodia


cHiLdReNcAnCoNsEnT

Sigma anti-tankie genocide dude ​ ​ /s


cloggednueron

And the Chinese. The US didn’t like Vietnam, and neither did China, so they helped the KR fight them once the Vietnamese toppled their government. This happened during a period of serious cooperation between the US and China.


[deleted]

No. That is a lie.


BrobleStudies

A 3 so far.


coralrefrigerator

Congrats for maximum score. Those who reached 4 are actually at -1.


Vollmond03

I'm a tankie and fuck the Khmer Rogue! If you support them you're a fascist, nothing less!


zekey-

You certainly write like a larper, must be a tankie. I'm 2-3, same boat.


tormetibus

Khmer Rouge were defended by anarchist grifters like Chomsky, liking their savage primitivist bullshit is the opposite of being a tankie Edit : 3 gang btw


mistweave

Exactly, Tribalism is not communism!


ToadBup

Rememner when chomsky said the fall of the ussr was good? Yknow the even wich caused the needless deaths of 7 million to hunger and the plight of millions more to poverty? Fuck the gnome


PapaStalin323

More like 1: Average leftist 2: Average Marxist-Leninist 3: Average Marxist-Leninist 4: US imperialist


CrushedPhallicOfGod

3 is the correct choice and 4 is just fucking dumb. Glory to the DPRK!


lI-Communism-Il

Is it me or is 3 the most correct one, and 4 left only for the SE Asian equivalent of a Gonzaloid?


MRTA03

only 3.if you are 4,i'm disappointed in you


snek99001

Fuck the Khmer Rouge.


Low-Consideration372

4 isn't "tankie" it's nonsense, and why does it depict Stalin's visage emerging?


Parkinson11

I'm 3


localnexalite

Super tankie


Refined_Kettle

your political beliefs have to be clouding your judgement a lot for that last one to be a thing to think


BlakeSiefken

I hope the Khmer Rouge question was only put in there to spot the counter-revolutionaries ;)


ProbalyANerd

1. It’s alright you’re on the right way 2. Great! That’s the spirit! 3. We are proud of our comrade! 4. You piece of shit fascist motherfucker


EJCube

I’m 2, but I understand 3. 4 is just stupid


A2755

4 is cringe, Pol Pot was not at ALL a socialist, fucker was just an agrarian fascist, he was US-backed, and he was a genocidal lunatic that was defeated by Vietnamese comrades. At the absolute most you could say he was a real-life Nazbol. Pol Pot stans deserve nothing more than the coal mine (in Fortnite)


Sus_Kennedy

3, idolizing Stalin and other communist leaders is larpy and cringe, criticizing people is good. He did bad and good mostly good


localnexalite

I normally criticise them, but when there's a capitalist involved, stalin did nothing wrong and was the best leader to ever exist, he was so great that he can be compared to Jesus


Sus_Kennedy

Oh yeah same when theres capitalists on the chat its fun to just praise Stalin and just troll the libs


CompleteTruth2040

>Comparing Stalin to some jewish cult leader


Refined_Kettle

honestly true


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[deleted]

I'm sure you have no problem with America throwing away literal billions of pounds of food and medicine instead of giving it to people who need it to survive. Tell me more about Stalin and how he has the power to control the weather.


raindog444

Shut up


PoorWifiSignal

r/movingtonorthkorea is changing hearts and minds


We1etu1n

That subreddit confuses me because I feel like there's s Fair mix of people actually wanting to move to the DPRK and shit posters. Edit: i meant more like what the purpose of the sub was.


PoorWifiSignal

Well the guy who owns it has a genuine love of DPRK. I find the subreddit interesting because of the resources located there about the DPRK. I wouldn’t say I would move to DPRK. But the country is a surprisedly successful version of Marxism-Leninism to a certain degree. I find their universal healthcare, universal housing, universal education and equal access to food to be desirable traits in a country. Knowing that the “defectors” who say horror movie things about the country are paid actors makes me perceive things a bit differently.


We1etu1n

That's pretty cool. I want to move to either Vietnam or Cuba myself.


SSPMemeGuy

My problem with that dan guy is his utter inability to criticise the DPRK in any way though. I once seem him claiming LGBT rights were highly advanced in the DPRK. Like the DPRK has alot going for it and requires our support, but it has to be grounded in reality and nuance. The place is extremely socially conservative when it comes to LGBT rights and the DRPK needs to work on that by themselves, but refusing to acknowledge any problems whatsoever is just counter productive.


PoorWifiSignal

I 100% agree. The only thing his subreddit did for me was change my feelings about North Korea being this sinister puppet state. Dan is only 17, he’s a baby tankie from what I can tell. He’s also against criticisms of any kind of China. He had potential as a good comrade as an adult, but right now he is still a bit too childish to even tankie correctly.


SSPMemeGuy

Absolutely, he's probably a relatively new one as well, all of us are extremely zealous when we first become them so it's understandable, and his youth if he really is that young will only compound it. He'll grow out if it of course but the concern is how many people he has the potential to turn off to the idea of the DPRK before that point.


mickmenn

Why i am extremely happy that most people here know why 2-3 couldn't rationally evolve into 4?


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Real tankies know that Khmer Rouge was CIA


UltimateTzar

Khmer Rouge was nationalist peasant revolution, no self respected communist believes in evil of differences. It's just that those differences shouldn't be base to our standards of lives, whether you are farmer, doctor or construction worker, no one should be above you and exploit you through archaic caste system. Intellectualism is cherished, not destroyed. How can anyone see Khmer Rouge as communist movement, is beyond me. I guess, people prefer to look at aesthetics, than really into the subject.


ThePoopOutWest

I’m pretty sure that guy that used to lurk around r/genzedong is the only Pol pot defender I’ve ever known


Comrade_Corgo

4 is cringe.


Mud-Training

3 asf!


VictorianDelorean

Solid 3


MatiPata-420

Super tankie I guess


Assumed7

Definitely a 3


rasm635u

Super tankie


moona_x

3


RoyalSnipez15

Super tankie is where it’s at


gouellette

Yeah somewhere around 3; I’m sure there’s more to Khmer Rouge that I’m not familiar, BUT!


cHiLdReNcAnCoNsEnT

There is. It was aided by the CIA.


SimsAttack

I’m not convinced the Holodomor was intentional. Even if it happened it’s proven that the USSR was eating healthier than the US so why would they intentionally cause a famine?


CommeradeStalin

3


Klutzy-Ad-6528

The only people who support the Khmer rouge are a few Maoists on the internet.


Hicham_Kiy

What's with the last one ? No one do that.


[deleted]

4 is not tankie; 4 is idiot


Deidara-sann

3


RedGoldSickle

3


sic_66

3


Picocat6

For me stalin did some good things, even if i am critical of the soviet Union


whatisscoobydone

I've seen like two people on Reddit defend Pol Pot. Not even on ML subs, usually on specific Pol Pot shitposting subs.


Catfo0od

3, fuck khmer rouge


JunkiYarde

Hmm I don’t think the kmer rouge was communist


Distinct-Thing

I'm a 2 on here, 3 makes sense but really that's not limited to DPRK, also 4 is...we don't talk about 4...


Anastrace

Who the fuck supports the khmer "cia backed" rouge?


mhkkacar

3


Dagger_Moth

Tankies don't support the Khmer Rouge, you ding dong.


Lurkingmonster69

I’ve never interacted w a tankie who likes pol pot... like ever. Dude wasn’t even interested in socialism and KR worked with the US. KR got slapped around by actually socialist Vietnam.


Exotic-Street-842

1. Stalin was one of the greatest leaders in history, bringing a backwoods monarchy to a world superpower where food, housing, water, and things you will literally die if you do not have, as human rights. 2. Famines were more than prevalent in fuedal Russia and most of Eastern Europe, as well as of how the deaths are multiplied in the 100s was Nazi Germany propaganda, not revisionist, even Dr. Seuss made a comic about this (look up “Sis! Boom! Bah! Rah!” if you need a quick laugh). 3. This is more than obvious, the United States murdered 20% of their population and did not leave a single building above 2 stories un-bombed. Despite sanctions, ambargoes, propaganda, and the fact that the largest empire in the world is threatening them with nuclear weapons, the DPRK still manages to provide their citizens with food, water, medicine, healthcare, education, among other what-should-be-considered human rights to their citizens entirely for free. Genuinely hope to visit one day. 4. Pol Pot was not even a Marxist to any extent, he was an individualistic opportunist that only heard what other people had said about socialism to construct a state, saw that it was on the rise in Indochina, and claimed it as the ideology of his revolutionto gain support, and when he began commiting ethnic genocide against Vietnamese people, the United States supported him, still being asshurt imperialists from the last war they lost aginst Hanoi. Eventually Viet Nam (real Communists) fought back and liberated them from the Khmer Rouge to the People’s Republic of Kampuchea. So conclusion, I’m even more Tankie than number 4, now I’m going to go back to working out to Der Offene Aufmarsch Trap Remix.


Immy_Chan

Hot take, we should protect the DPRK from Western imperialism while also condemning them for their human rights violations


The-Anti-Capitalist

Pol pot was anarchist, change my mind.


Toshero

I swing between 0 and 2


American_Communist22

depends on the person?


1sb3rg

Against other leftists? 0. Against imperialists. 1-2


The_Magical_Salmon1

2, I like some of both socialist ideas as well as communist ideas


Throwoawayaylien

That doesn’t make any sense, please read some theory


stupidretard1995

A trot, so I defend the two remaining workers' states: Cuba and the DPRK. I also defend national-bourgeois governments in imperialised nations that come into conflict against Imperialism such as Venezuela, Nicaragua, Bolivia, Assad's Syria, Iran, the Taliban, etc. Even though China has a very reactionary role in history as the country that gave new breath to the dying Imperialism after restoration, I also support it when it comes into conflict with Imperialism.


merrygomarry

Fairly sure Trotsky was opposed to "Socialism in one country", so I don't see how you connected being a Trotskyist -> supporting Cuba and the DPRK.


stupidretard1995

First, read Trotsky's interview to Mateo Fossa. Second, degenerated workers' states are still workers' states and as such should be defended. A trotskyist should always stand against Imperialism, problem was the URSS under the stalinist bureaucracy often walked hand in hand with Imperialism, this only changed after WWII and the conciliatory counterrevolutionary nonsense returned with Brezhnev. Trotsky (correctly) realized that it was impossible to build a socialist state in a capitalist world, and you know something interesting? The Cubans reached that conclusion by experience, so did Mao (even though he ended supporting a genocidal maniac), so did Gaddafi (even though he was not a "proper" socialist), etc. the only way the revolution prospers is if it is spread and if it fights Imperialism headfirst. The URSS had the potential to take power in Greece, Italy, France after WWII, why did it not? The counterrevolutionary stalinist bureaucracy had privileges to maintain and it could not risk a war with the US.


merrygomarry

>The URSS had the potential to take power in Greece, Italy, France after WWII, why did it not? The counterrevolutionary stalinist bureaucracy had privileges to maintain and it could not risk a war with the US. I think you answered your own dilema here. You say the USSR "could" take power in Western Europe, yet if they had tried they'd have fought a war they would most likely have lost. Even despite not expanding more into Europe, the USSR was still vilified as an enemy of Humanity. You using the "Stalinist Bureaucracy" jargon is just a distraction from what the real problem was. >the only way the revolution prospers is if it is spread and if it fights Imperialism headfirst. Really? How exactly can Cuba or the DPRK fight imperialism with their current material conditions? If anything, them still being alive is due to the focus on maintaining socialism within their country, and surviving off of international solidarity (in Cuba's case) and tourism (DPRK). Also DPRKs nukes prevent an outright military intervention by Western powers. This point is just insane drivel.


SSPMemeGuy

>The URSS had the potential to take power in Greece, Italy, France after WWII, why did it not? The counterrevolutionary stalinist bureaucracy had privileges to maintain and it could not risk a war with the US. Least bloodthirsty trot lol


stupidretard1995

Would they have lost? It is likely that it could have been something akin to the socialist revolutions after WWI but now with a giant state to help them. It would not have been a war between the USSR and the US/UK, there is a giant ingredient missing here which is the workers that were already armed and organized after fighting the Nazis. Who knows what could have happened with the end of capitalist France for example and its colonies? That was a gigantic opportunity for a crippling blow to capitalism, but Stalin capitulated. If communism became unbelievably popular nearly everywhere after the Russian Revolution and communist parties appeared everywhere shortly after, imagine what it could have been in a time where the American propaganda apparatus hadn't yet kicked in and everybody knew the communists had defeated Hitler. About Cuba and the DPRK, they can't effectively fight precisely because they are isolated. It is somewhat a miracle that both countries still stand. I agree that the DPRK developing nukes was a great move, specially after witnessing the invasions in Lybia and Syria.


SSPMemeGuy

>Would they have lost Uhh, considering the US had fucking nukes by that point and a largely undamaged army and infrastructure compared to the Soviets along with a vice like control of their population and armed forces yes, I'd say the Soviets would have lost are you insane.


stupidretard1995

Well if the USSR was so powerless at that point, how did it manage to control eastern Europe? Imperialism is sure known for its generosity. Truth is the US was scared shitless of the USSR...


SSPMemeGuy

It wasn't powerless, where did I say that? There is a huge fucking gap between totally powerless and powerful enough to wipe out the US and UK who suffered less than a 20th the casualties the Soviets did and had virtually no infrastructure loss compared to the Soviets. It wouldn't be a stomp on the part of the US, but there is no question the US would win that war. Absolutely no question at all.


Noonepicked

what is tankie


Dagger_Moth

It should mean Marxist-Leninist. It actually was a term to refer to those that supported Soviet Intervention (using tanks, hence "tankie") against reactionary counter revolutions in Hungary and Czechoslovakia. That's what I mean by it, and why I'd call myself one. Nowadays, unfortunately it's used by libs to be some caricature of an unhinged leftist.


Noonepicked

Hmmm..When did the intervention happen?I think there's more than one🤔


Dagger_Moth

I believe Hungary's was in 1953, and Czechoslovakia's was in 1968.


Noonepicked

then neither is done by real socialist?


Dagger_Moth

Hungary's counter-revolution was largely led by conservative landowners and religious leaders. I'm less familiar with the leaders of the Czechoslovak one.


Cabinet_Juice

2


masteryetti

Super tankie!


Bourbon_neet

I'm available to be bought for a spot in the buffet line.


ellethelesbian

Somewhere between regular and super


Lonely-Comment-8952

3 gang


Gloomy_Goose

3


SocialistNerfer

SUPER TANKIE


CloutOfTheStrings

1-2


BooperOfManySnoots

3


coralrefrigerator

Super Tankie. The Khmer Rouge is a rabbit hole of debates. Never a true Stalinist tepresentation in my opinion.


heavvygloom

tankie lite


Br4z1l14nguy

3


CitizenFoffie

Tankie Regular


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why would "tankies" defend a guy that was funded by the usa in his early years..85 million from 80-86


[deleted]

Super Tankie. Nobody in their right mind goes any farther.


slyant609

I'm definitely not a tankie but don't think it should be a negative term if it's what you belive


Snoo-68185

3,only ultras and natbols like pol-pot


Alsoap

I dont really know lol


Die_Partei1955

3 . Fuckbpol pot to hell and back


Norano777

not tankie


carnagebestvillain

You guys will admit to any of this? Jesus christ


[deleted]

I'm on stage 4, unironically.


merrygomarry

Username checks out.


PapaStalin323

Waiting til you realize that they were supported by the US and that Pol pot was some sort of primitivist that didn't follow marxist principles


[deleted]

Nice Western propaganda


PapaStalin323

Lol they were literally supported by the US and the Cambodian citizens were liberated by communist Vietnam but you do you


[deleted]

It's a shame that you buy western and revisionist lies


PapaStalin323

I still don’t see how a country supported by the US can be subject to western propaganda, like you don’t see US media shitting on South Korea for example. Someone like pol pot who rejected industrial progress isn’t a Marxist and all that ignoring the genocide he perpetrated which wasn’t 1 million people killed like shitty prager says but more like 70k-80k Cambodians executed according to official reports. But ok I guess I’m brainwashed just like the other 99.9% of MLs


[deleted]

"Supported by the US" **"Supported by the US"** The US can easily make up support that they never gave to a country in the first place in order to get Communists like you to fall for their lies. Pol Pot made the Western world's capitalists and Vietnamese reformists shit their pants as he knew how to make a nation completely depend on itself and kick out imperialistic influence for the sadly small time he was in power.


PapaStalin323

"Vietnamese revisionists" lol


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I don't glow in the dark


the_red_guard

Oh you have to love the appearance of a pol pot fan To the dumbass liberals I'm a tankie. To these mentally deranged loons I'm a revisionist. Fun fact: pol pot was a shite leader and his "communism" was atrocious lmao.


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Glow harder


Iosephus_Rex

I'm like a tankie lite- cause I only like the cool musik


Psychological_Log749

That's not what a tankie is. Please study theory and history of socialist movements to actually make a difference in the world. You are of no use to the working people if you just LARP.


Frixxed

I am not a tankie 😎


OnlyFrogs69

Not against you, but the DPRK is a dictatorship that tortures it's own people isn't really communist in any way and pol pot killed millions


merrygomarry

How much do you get paid per hour to fabricate lies on the internet about the DPRK?


orinisal

stupid authoritarian losers


Lonely-Comment-8952

Are you a troll account?


orinisal

Nope just calling you Stupid. Authoritarian. Losers. now go ahead and ban me like you kill off all other opposition. Cowards


Lonely-Comment-8952

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orinisal

Bringing up pointless propaganda to run from your problems. The people will forget about you when you need them most, for deep inside you only care about power and greed


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orinisal

TANKS WILL BURN!


Robby_Bird1001

Meh I just admire Stalin’s ability to seize power at the opportunities that suited him, so I guess I’m between a 3-4.