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...why is this a thing

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DrSeuss321

Real shit some food is gross on paper plates. Like you don’t have pasta on a paper plate it’ll get like soggy or something


Thedepressionoftrees

Soup on a paper plate 0/10, I was way too tired and not thinking straight


DrSeuss321

LMFAO Not even like a paper bowl?


Thedepressionoftrees

I had just come back from a 15 hour shift. I saw the soup, I saw the plate, my brain thought that it was perfectly reasonable. It was not a good experience. The plate melted in the middle and sent hot soup all over my legs. 0/10 would not recommend


ComradeYeetus

sounds like something I would do lol


LazyOrang

That's hilarious. Reminds me of that time I cooked a shop-bought pizza on its little polystyrene tray because, well, the tray had to be there for *some* reason, right?


MudraStalker

Sorry for your loss dude. I once was so tired I bought one of those large tray meals you can bake in an oven, but forgot to take off the plastic covering, causing it to melt in the oven and forcing me to go to bed hungry and mad.


LazyOrang

It was okay, I was able to peel it off - yours sounds much worse. Sorry about that, chap.


MudraStalker

I actually just pulled off the topmost layer, reheated it, and ate a slightly plasticky tasting meal. This has a good ending!


LazyOrang

Hussah!


DarkSoulfromDS

That was just the delicious taste of cancer


Anastrace

I remember working for 3 days straight and coming home and cooking a frozen pizza and forgot to remove the cardboard piece underneath.


LazyOrang

You poor bastard. That's capitalism for you.


paarthanos2021

I think im going fucking blind cuz I had to read your comment thrice before figuring out you had written soup not soap


Rydraenei

Soap on a paper plate would probably also be bad, though the taste is probably unaffected by the plate material


paarthanos2021

Exactly why I had to keep reading it again n again


nooloothefrog

lmao once i remeber i went on a school camp and it was a private school but all the food was served on paper plates or bowls and i had to eat cereal with milk out of a paper bowl it was hell


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That’s actually a good point. Also, don’t microwave anything on paper plates. I’ve had to forcefully separate quesadillas from paper plates and it’s not fun.


DrSeuss321

Nah some stuff can be microwaved on paper plates it depends what you are making just gotta be smart lol


Yuri1kida

yup, I tried microwaving some chicken wings on a paper plate and not even 20 seconds later it catches on fire..never again


Spready_Unsettling

Wait, are you seriously eating from paper plates in your own home? Do you also chuck car batteries in the ocean when they lose the charge?


legolee

im as confused as you too. Is using paper plates actually a thing in american culture...? that seems so wasteful


fandom_trash_28

i had pasta on this paper plate once, and that shit got fucking stuck, it was disgusting


RobbSparkes

Could probably beat him with a paper plate if his masculinity is that fragile


jaywarbs

Paper cuts should do the trick.


-ANGRYjigglypuff

...paper cuts make me cringe in cowardly fear


SalvaStalker

...paper cuts on eyeballs... Someone I knew has it happened to them. I remember it and cringe everytime I see a stack of white paper sheets.


-ANGRYjigglypuff

aieeeeeeee


Living-Complex-1368

I think any man who listens to/believes something like this absolutely should walk away from any woman who serves him food on a paper plate. She will be so much better off!


Nierninwa

For everyday use I definitely prefer ceramic plates, we produce enough waste as it is. So if a hypothetical spouse, that I will never have, would use paper plates on a regular basis it probably would be something I would leave them over.


itsanofrommedog1

I was following an influencer on Instagram that was a sister of an acquaintance and I had to unfollow her because she uses paper plates for every meal to feed her family of 8. So she doesn’t have to do dishes. That was a life hack she shared. The gross wastefulness made me so mad


Nierninwa

Okay, it did not even cross my mind that there were people who honestly use them every day at home. Now that I know that there are I do not know what do do with that information.


valkyrie_village

My grandmother is 95 and lives alone in a home with no dishwasher. She’ll use them more often than I think average people do because it can be hard for her to do a lot of dishes. My mom, sister, and I will use real plates and wash them for her when we eat with her. Folks who don’t have dishwashers and may have difficulty doing dishes for various reasons are probably more frequent paper plate users.


Tangurena

I knew some observant Jews who used paper plates. Normally, they should have 4 sets of plates/dishes and silverware: everyday dairy, everyday meat, Passover dairy and Passover meat. Using paper plates let them avoid the issue of worrying about keeping meat and dairy separate (or contaminating the plates since they were supposed to even wash them separately). There are some brands of [Kosher dishwashers that have 2 separate areas](https://www.fisherpaykel.com/us/dishwashing/contemporary-dishwashers/double-dishdrawer-dishwasher-tall-sanitize-dd24dchtx9-n-81600.html) so you don't get your meat and dairy dishes touching in the dishwasher.


Nierninwa

Okay, that is a better reason than pure laziness , but I still think that is pretty wasteful. I have read some reasons for using disposable plates on a daily basis that convinced me (like a spacial need kid that tends to throw plates) but over all I am still rather critical.


AlliPlease

There's biodegradable ones that A:Save on dishes when you're really busy or have a big family and B:Make some awesome plant food in a compost pile. Like...damn. Something about the bits of leftover food or something. Buying a bulk pack of these can drastically cut down on dishes, while being a zero waste option.


Spready_Unsettling

Fuck you, that's not a zero waste option. That's the stupidest shit I've ever heard. You know what's a zero waste option? *Eating from an actual plate like a fucking human being.* I don't wanna be the bad guy, but you're actively fucking over the planet by being such an immensely dumb little idiot. Come on. Do you honestly believe raw materials, processing, transportation, sales related infrastructure and packaging just disappears because you put it in the fucking compost?


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Spready_Unsettling

Oh yeah, I constantly send my ceramic plates back to the manufacturer to waste [about 8 gallons of water per use](https://stanfordmag.org/contents/green-dinner-parties-nitty-gritty) and transportation emissions of getting it to and fro. >Packaging, shipping and manufacturing are gonna happen with or without paper plates Lol no. A regular ass plate is packaged and shipped once, you idiot. You're shipping and manufacturing hundreds, if not thousands of times more when you're using single use. A literal child could understand this math no problem. And please, for the love of all that is holy, learn how to parse information. Oil lobbies pushing for personal carbon footprints doesn't give you a carte blanche to actively choose the least sustainable option. That's just not how it fucking works, and you'd have to be incredibly stupid to think so. Those 100 companies producing 71% of emissions *are still producing products for consumption.* If you actively consume a lot with no concern for sustainability, you're not only creating dozens of times more pollution than someone from the global south, you're *actively confirming the business plan of the worst offenders.* You don't get to play apathetic. If you're American, you're already consuming at [36 times the rate of an Indian. ](https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2015/12/08/458917881/india-to-u-s-cut-back-on-your-consumption?t=1633361450473) Is your life worth the life of 36 Indians? Are you somehow entitled to pollute over 30 times more than people in the global south? I get that it's more fun to shirk all responsibility and point to the corporations, but those corporations are producing the plastic, paper, clothing, food, gasoline, electricity, gas and concrete that goes into your lifestyle. And that's not even covering how those products are shipped all over the world several times during production. You may not choose to be a part of all of that, but that sure as shit doesn't absolve you of responsibility when you use single use paper and plastic, drive a gigantic vehicle all alone, buy slave labor clothes filled with micro plastics or go on a fucking cruise. There are things outside of your control, and there are things in your control. Choosing not to go for the most destructive plate option is inside your control.


VictoriaWoodnt

>I was following an influencer on Instagram That's your first mistake right there.


itsanofrommedog1

Oh, for sure. I only was because I vaguely knew them. Terrible experience even before the paper plates!


Grungemaster

There are a few good ones. I personally enjoy some of the content by outdoor recreation bloggers as it gives me ideas for future national park trips. Like much of anything, it’s just about being thoughtful with what we give attention to, because you’re right, there’s way more crap out there than non-crap.


crusadingAquila

Does she not know about dishwashers?


Nierninwa

I wanted to say maybe she can not afford one, but in the long run is probably would be less expensive than using paper plates for every single meal.


ResponsibilityKey659

dishwashers are really fucking cheap to operate, and even landlord special models function well enough. there's literally no reason to not use a dishwasher because they save labor, time, money, water, soap for a family of 8 you'd want a higher end model with a better capacity https://youtu.be/_rBO8neWw04


mcmonties

>there's literally no reason to not use a dishwasher Idk I have a pretty good reason for not using a dishwasher. The trailer I'm renting didn't come with one, nor the space for one. I'm disabled so it'd really be nice to have one.


ResponsibilityKey659

well that's a shame I've seen some countertop models that have room for something like 2 place settings or a pot or pan or two, might be expensive https://youtu.be/hVup5ya0WVQ


crusadingAquila

She could probably afford one if she sold a child or two. :p


Sororita

>her family of 8 dude's pullout game so weak he can't even pull out of a driveway.


goober_ginge

Okay so it is just that. I posted earlier asking about this because it seems fairly common practice but it's so baffling that you could be okay with that much needless waste. That influencer's practices make me fucking ill. I'm in no way near as environmentally conscious as I could and should be, but being okay with that being the norm for every meal is fucking bonkers.


NoXion604

> she uses paper plates for every meal to feed her family of 8. So she doesn’t have to do dishes. Fuck me, that's a criminal level of laziness right there.


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AlliPlease

Lmfao I'll never understand how reddit gets so comfortable judging others. Holy shit. 😭🤣 Do you know if they compost the plates? "This person's so wasteful it could be a crime...maybe...someone on reddit said she uses paper plates a lot so obviously she can't care for her children." ...i...do you troglodytes ever see the sun? Go to farmers markets? Church events? Anything involving other humans doing adult human shit?


Spready_Unsettling

Wait till you hear some of the defenses these other commenters come up with. I'm genuinely scared people in the west are just too fucking stupid not to actively murder the planet.


Nanoglyph

A decent proportion of American conservatives think that we don't need to worry about the Earth because the Rapture will take us before then. I'm not kidding, I'm completely serious. The rest think God made the earth so humans are powerless to destroy it. Don't know about the rest of the West, but America is absolutely too stupid not to actively murder the planet.


itsanofrommedog1

You should be, we’re dumb as hell over here


Nargarjuna

Hear me out, you compost them and feed the paper plates to your garden. No dishes, no waste, better yields


marie7787

Yup compostable plates are really nice, unfortunately not all paper plates are compostable.


Spready_Unsettling

If you think there's no waste in composting a processed, packaged, shipped and sold product as opposed to washing a piece of ceramics that will get ~1000 uses in its lifetime, you're stupid as fuck. I can't believe people actually think this way.


CattusGirlius

I'm not gonna knock someone who uses paper plates to avoid cleaning for 8 people, her life is privacy hectic enough


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Flashpoint_Rowsdower

I know some people do it for big events like birthday parties or family reunions. Times when they don't have enough normal plates or wouldn't be able to reasonably be able to wash them all in a normal sink.


Ojanican

Yeah I mean thats like the intended use case for paper plates


Grungemaster

Those heavy duty oval plates are undefeated at Thanksgiving.


MyMurderOfCrows

Some people may have to due to medical issues that leave them in a position where the alternative is not eating so…. I mean. Ideally yea it is better to not use but if it comes down to using a paper plate because that is what is doable for their situation, then it is what it is.


emily_in_paril

Yeah, like I’ve had to just use paper plates before I could get a place with a dishwasher because of mental health problems. The pile of unwashed dishes just kind of became a monument to my failures and made it worse, so I just moved to paper for a little while. I just had to change my habits to whatever took the least effort because that’s what I needed. The alternative was just not eating at all.


MyMurderOfCrows

I am glad you didn’t opt for not eating. It isn’t easy to be in that situation whether due to your circumstances, mental health issues, physical health issues, or whatever it may be.


vanillaseltzer

Exactly. That's what it was for me too. I focused everything I could muster on keeping up at work. I had nothing, nothing at all left for energy or drive after faking for clients all day. I managed basic hygiene, food, water, and my pets made it through okay. Everything else was a luxury I didn't have the neurological capacity to deal with at that time. I'm glad it sounds like you're doing better? All my best. Name of the game is: Survive so you can get to the part where you can live again!


emily_in_paril

Oh yeah I got a dishwasher and better meds now so there’s that lmao. I hope you’re doing better too! :)


uncom4table

This! Physical & intellectual disabilities as well as poor mental health are a few things that may cause someone to use paper plates regularly. Obviously not ideal for daily use but there are exceptions.


MyMurderOfCrows

Exactly. And the fact some ignoramus decided to double down for my calling them out down below is… frustrating. As if calling out shitty behaviour is trolling???


vanillaseltzer

It's a whole lot of BS down there. But thanks for your attempts to educate.


MyMurderOfCrows

Yeaaaaa haha. I know it wasn’t necessarily the best to take out stuff on him but since he escalated it, I felt less concerned over it. I’m just glad to see some people recognise that it was wrong in the first place since the trend was worrying.


uncom4table

I know I saw that. I’m sorry. Like…. Sorry I interpreted your words the way you wrote them, sir.


MyMurderOfCrows

Yupppp. And to double down?!?!?!? I know what I wrote originally wasn’t being kind in case it was unintentional so I made sure to tone it down and give that out! But nope :| Apparently I’m a troll xD


uncom4table

I mean you sort of copied the tone of their comment too. So I mean idk I guess if you’re a troll then they are too


MyMurderOfCrows

Oh yea xD I wasn’t going to turn down the opportunity to direct some pent up anger at someone who was going to fling shit at me xD Maybe that isn’t right but eh. I’m not gonna dish it out when it isn’t warranted and I would have gladly backed down if they acknowledged the issue with what they said. Oh well!


vanillaseltzer

I'm so shocked at this thread. I wish I hadn't read so many nasty opinions about "what kind of people" would do such a thing. It sucks. Thank you for your efforts to educate people. I'll brush it off in a bit. In my book, a wasteful habit helped me make it through the biggest challenge of my life, and here I am, still in the world and doing better. That was the goal. Survival and the chance to get healthy and happy, despite my genetics and situation. Not socially acceptable temporary dish choice.


vanillaseltzer

Thank you for mentioning this. I took this thread way too personally...I guess I wasn't expecting all the outright judgement on this sub. Like, pause and go "hmm...why would someone use a paper plate at home? I bet there may be other possible explanations than 'they're obviously a wasteful, lazy, piece of shit person.'"


IsaRenee

In my house if the current person in charge of dishes isn't up to doing them paper stuff will be used. But that is mostly because I can't do the dishes due to chronic pain. And my brother thinks he is above doing everyday chores.


mogoggins12

I’ve only seen it in the USA so far


AlarmingSorbet

I use paper plates when there’s a large gathering, like Birthdays, Xmas or Thanksgiving. I’ll also send paper plates in to school with the kids for their birthday parties. Other than that the only time I recall using them regularly was when I was discharged from the hospital after an 11 day stay and had to relearn how to walk. I could barely walk the 5 feet to the toilet, I wasn’t able to stand and wash plates. I needed my home aide to prepare meals for me, do laundry and help me bathe, the hours they approved barely covered *that*.


TheSyldat

Some U.S families do it because mom don't have time to do the dishes so paper plates it is to just throw everything in the bin once everyone has eaten.


Worst_username_eva

Or I the kids and the husband could help out? I mean far out!


gayscout

You can't expect the husband to bring home the bacon _and_ do household chores. /s


fingerinmynose

Mmmmm bacon. Product of pig.


Hex_Agon

Have more consume more experience less


RavynousHunter

When you're poor, you get to make a lot of just...just **lovely** choices like having to choose between disposable paper plates and going thru dish soap faster. Folks think that being poor sucks because of the big picture shit like choosing between food and keeping your lights on. While that sucks, its the small, daily things like that which whittle away at your will to live.


vanillaseltzer

This is a reply to another person, but it's long and I'm passionate about this after seeing how many people are piling the shame on it seems anyone who may use paperware at home sometimes for legitimate and hard reasons. Excuse the paste: One off the top of my head: Yes. Often for good reason, often intermittently or temporarily, at least in my experience. Mental illness such as depression where even the most basic day to day living is a massive challenge. By most basic, I really mean eating, drinking, bathing, moving your body, removing garbage from your home- I'm glad it sounds like you and a TON of others here haven't experienced anything that would make you understand what that survival mode is like. If it's not eating at all versus using paper plates during a rough period, I choose temporary wastefulness. The alternative may be rotting unwashed dishes piling in the sink and then not eating anything that requires dishes until you try different meds for the next year until something finally helps. After leaving my abusive ex husband before coming out (Feb 2020) I went more than a year without using my kitchen. Including my kitchen sink. My dishes were dirty and I was so overwhelmed by how insurmountable the mess in my apartment had gotten during the 3 month shutdown in my state that *I* shut down. It paralyzed me with shame that I couldn't just wash my fucking dishes like a normal person. For months, I was only holding it together at work but otherwise had zero life outside of that. My first thought upon waking was either "not again." or "oh no, not another one, I can't do another one today." I meant living through another day seemed insurmountable, so yeah, dishes were on the list there below a few other things. For another example, at my worst point, I would just drop trash on the floor next to the garbage when the garbage was full. If I was having a 'good' day then I'd start another trash bag next to the first one. It took me more than a month to take out my trash at one point. The SHAME is incredible. I didn't ask for help because I was too mortified to be a slob eating off Costco paper plates at age 32 and living in a space where you need to weave between trash bags and recycling boxes to walk around. I felt like I was proving my ex and all the horrible things he'd say about me true. The dishes were *proof* that I was a "goddamn lazy pathetic slob" like he always telling me. I am a professional at work, I fake my shit well. The semester in college that I was suicidal, I got straight A's but was a complete glassy eyed zombie of apathy when I didn't have to perform for anyone. You never know who around you is going through a Paper Plate Period of their lives that would otherwise much, much more happily be using their own real dishes. Trust me, they like the version of themselves that uses dishes more and they're desperately hoping that capable adult version of themselves is still in there and coming back someday soon. The shame ate at me, and it looks like I'm still defensive, huh? Nothing personal. I'm doing better with depression now, but between my sleep disorder and a stomach condition, I still end up reaching for paper sometimes because I'm just too weak/shakey/exhausted to deal with dishes when I'm not dragging myself around work pretending I'm healthy enough to be there. But I'm not about to let them pile up like they did during the dark patch! I guess I'm scared of dishes now, because I don't feel confident that I'll be well enough to clean them in a timely manner. Not everyone is playing with the same amount of cards available in their deck as your average person.


m0l0_l0l0

My grandpa heats his home with a wood stove. We separate our trash into trash, recycling, and burnables. The burnables keeps his fires going and heats his home. A lot of his friends send over their burnable trash too (nothing that smells.) It's not always waste, it can have a secondary purpose.


Spready_Unsettling

It's *still fucking waste.* The alternative is a product with a low carbon footprint getting used hundreds of not thousands of times. Paper plates require materials, processing, packaging, shipping, selling and ultimately a drive home. My jeans can burn or break down into compost. Does that mean burning fresh jeans is zero waste too?


elysecherryblossom

They are given out sometimes when ordering a pizza for takeout, etc. Never once have I had the desire to go out and buy paper plates to use at home though


Ryoko3502

The first comment tho, belongs on r/cursedcomments


Dwarfherd

It's a lot more fun than this thread where apparently paper plates are causing the problems with the climate and not, you know, companies like DuPont making rivers flammable.


disaster_jay27

My stepmom believes this. We all use paper plates, except my dad. He gets a real one because he's "the man of the house". 🙄I didn't know anyone else thought this way.


BlooperHero

Oh good, it's the worst of both worlds.


Spready_Unsettling

Your stepmom is a psychopath. We're barreling towards climate catastrophe, and she can't even use *plates?*


CelikBas

Why do Facebook boomers type in all caps and include unnecessary ellipses? It makes it read like they’re yelling very slowly.


Cloakknight

*Image Transcription: Tumblr* --- \[*Attached image of a post*] >THERES A DEBATE GOING AROUND FACEBOOK ABOUT PLATES.... THEY SAY A WOMAN SHOULD NEVER SERVE A MAN HIS MEAL OFF OF A PAPER PLATE IT SHOULD ALWAYS BE SERVED OFF OF A REAL PLATE.... THE MAN SHOULD WALK AWAY IF SHE DOES USE A PAPER PLATE •YOUR THOUGHTS!!! > >\[*Left image is labeled "PAPER PLATES" showing paper plates. The right image is labeled "REAL PLATES" and shows red ceramic plates*] Why are straight people like this why did i have to see this --- Personally, I prefer a paper plate because it's easier to digest and goes with most meals. The ceramic is too crunchy and I only have a few teeth left to chew it --- Personally if anyone said this image to me irl I'd get the ceramic back out and beat them with it --- ^^I'm a human volunteer content transcriber for Reddit and you could be too! [If you'd like more information on what we do and why we do it, click here!](https://www.reddit.com/r/TranscribersOfReddit/wiki/index)


Thedepressionoftrees

Good human


Sso_12

Thank you!


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Lunches in the park HATE this one FACT.


ridingbicycle

Oh I have some thoughts alright...


quzooh

This looks like one of those memes that get posted by scam pages to appeal to an older demographic for more engagement, it's called like-farming.


KingKiler2k

Just eat out of the fucking pan


Berocraft77

You want me to eat out my pansexual friend? 😳


KingKiler2k

I was waiting for this and I was wonder how this would pan out.


Lily-Fae

Honestly soup’s never tasted better than right out of the pot. Burns your mouth a bit, but it’s part of the experience.


KingKiler2k

Ok but who uses paper plates for soup?


Lily-Fae

One person when they’re very tired (according to the comments), but I was trying to agree with eating straight from the pan. Maybe that wasn’t the best example, but it’s on the brain because I just had some really good soup haha.


KingKiler2k

I may have taken it as sarcasm. Sorry


Lily-Fae

You’re good, tone’s hard to read


KingKiler2k

You can say It's a tone of work.


Lily-Fae

(Badumtss)


C727494

Someone should fix their own damn plate if it’s so important and wash the damn thing too.


Darkside531

Well, paper plates do suck, but mostly for being flimsy and wasteful, not for the chauvinistic dumbassery this post is spewing on about.


all-i-said-was-hi

This just made me think of Ed, Edd & Eddy where they’re selling homemade tacos by putting clumps of grass in paper plates and folding them.


weedcop420

Lmao that plate looks like those radioactive versions of fiestaware


TheSyldat

Okay let me ask the following here : Outside of U.S families where the dude is never even lifting so much as a fucking finger and therefore the lady of the house has given up on doing the dishes to save time where she can... EDIT: And since apparently it needs to be precised even further. Because the first exception is not enough to imply the following apparently. **Outside of any and all** people that have **any and all other valid reasons** to do so # WHAT KIND OF MONSTROUS UNCULTURED SWINE EAT ON PAPER PLATES ON THE DAILY ?!


Nierninwa

Sometimes, when cooking just for myself, I too felt lazy and wanted to do as little dishes as possible. So I ditched plates completely and just ate straight out of the pot or pan (which is also kind of trashy), but using disposable plates never even crossed my mind.


PatrisAster

You answered your own question.


MyMurderOfCrows

What kind of ableist “monstrous uncultured swine” just assumes that everyone has the capability to do stuff the same way you do? There are many circumstances that can explain why a “monstrous uncultured swine” of a person may have to eat on paper plates daily and assuming otherwise is pretty pigheaded of you. Especially in a sub which most of the audience is LGBT+, aka a group which faces discrimination that leads to some of the circumstances in which someone may be in the position of exactly what I just described. I am going to hope you weren’t intentionally being a jerk but seriously. Just. Yea. I’ll shut up now but shout out to you for potentially making people who were or are in a situation where they had to use paper plates daily, feel like shit! Brava!!! Edit to add the context of what I initially replied to > Okay let me ask the following here :Outside of U.S families where the dude is never even lifting so much as a fucking finger and therefore the lady of the hous has given up on doing the dishes to save time where she can...WHAT KIND OF MONSTROUS UNCULTUERED SWINE EAT ON PAPER PLATES ON THE DAILY ?!


m0l0_l0l0

I wish I could give you an award but I don't have any so you'll have to make do with this emoji of a lizard🦎


MyMurderOfCrows

Thank you :) Lizards are lovely friends so I will gladly accept. I am truly glad somehow most of this sub hasn’t been in situations where they had to resort to using paper plates daily but jeebus it is frustrating how shitty people are acting without realising their behaviour.


m0l0_l0l0

I use paper plates regularly. My grandpa burns them to heat his home or he'd freeze in the winter it's part of rural life. I also have a special needs foster son I'm in the process of adopting who had a lot of abuse surrounding food, you know what doesn't hurt when thrown at you? Paper plates. You know what does? Plastic. Glass. Ceramic. Wood. Etc. Also at the end of a long day and longer evening trying to not trigger my boy but make sure he eats so he doesn't die the last thing I wanna do is dishes. It's exhausting.


MyMurderOfCrows

I imagine that is quite the struggle and I am proud of you for finding a solution! Personally, my mother has a muscular dystrophy that hasn’t been diagnosed after over a decade and she gave up on diagnostics but the end result is a lot of seizures. That plus glass was a major issue waiting to happen as her glassware quickly met their demise. And I have struggled personally with major depressive disorder, previously unknown/untreated ADHD, etc so I had some periods where getting out of bed was hard enough, let alone even considering or trying to eat. I wouldn’t wish it on anyone but I won’t deny being pissed off seeing posts where people seemingly live in a place totally devoid of empathy or critical thinking…


m0l0_l0l0

Seeing all the comments where people were very judgemental and a little single minded was a bit disheartening so your comment was like a little drop of sunshine to me. So thank you again. That being said being conscious of the environment and not being wasteful is important, but for certain people using single use items is the best we can do with the life we have. So to just be generally shitty about it is hurtful and not cool. I do what I can where I can (reusable straws, cups, bags) but I also use paper plates.


MyMurderOfCrows

I agree and no need to thank me :) I didn’t do it for myself since I honestly don’t usually defend myself, but if it comes down to trying to make stuff better for others, I will always do my best. And I absolutely agree that it is ideal to reduce waste and have done my part in case I am in that situation again but if it is what you need to do, there is no reason to feel guilty. Heck, we all know or should know that the waste of a single person is inconsequential compared to the biggest corporate producers… I wish you and your family well though and that you can work through the food issues soon 🖤


vanillaseltzer

You're not alone 🌈 I felt the same way. I'm glad there are people who understand here and not just dismissive, judgemental ones. My best is all I can do.


TheSyldat

Was I talking about people with disabilties ? No Was I talking about people with mental health problems that leads to that ? No You made it that way in your head. But if you will let's indulge you troll WHAT KIND OF FULLY CAPABLE ABLE BODIED OWNER OF THEIR OWN HOUSE THAT DOES HAVE ACTUAL PLATES IN THEIR KITCHEN UNCLTURED MONSTROUS SWINES THAT GIVES NO FUCKS ABOUT THEIR IMPACT ON THE ECO SYSTEM USES PAPER PLATES ON THE DAILY ?: There... Happy ?! Now take your self righteousness somewhere else.


MyMurderOfCrows

Okay if you want to be a fucking asshole, let’s do this. You said, and I quote “what kind of monstrous[,] uncultured[,] swine eat on paper plates on the daily?” Your statement explicitly included any and all people as you did not denote that you only intended able bodied people. You then decided to double down on being a fucking cunt waffle because you were called out (rightfully) despite being provided an out of you potentially not having realised your ableism. So fuck right off. You didn’t state “other than people who have just cause.” Your statement didn’t leave room for you to even try and make that argument. Your statement was clearly all-inclusive. Also bold of you to choose to call me a troll for respectfully pointing out your ableism and yes I will say respectfully because I did tone it down initially since I recognised you may not have intended it. If you want to just be an asshole, by all means go out and do so. You made it quite clear to me that you don’t give a fuck about others and only care about yourself. All the best to you.


TheSyldat

I have put an exception right before in my original question in my original message. So YES the fact that you climb on your self righteous high horse despite me already implying from the outset that THERE EXIST VALID REASON TO SO AND I AM RIGHT NOW ASKING ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT DON'T HAVE ONE is just you playing holier than though. Enjoy your block you fucking troll .


Pesto_Power

Some totally unsolicited advice from a person who's been in way too many pointless internet arguments themselves - You came on *waaaay* too strong out the gate. So long as you're arguing in good faith (not just to trying to piss your opponent off), you wanna stay respectful. Even if you think they've done a BIG whoopsie, be *stern*, but maintain civility, and imply that you can both be friends as soon as they've corrected their mistake. Ignorance isn't immoral until the person's been given a chance to learn. Getting mad at them can be justified if *you* were insulted by their comment, *yourself*, but it sounds as though you're only speaking on behalf of other potentially offended third parties, rather than having been personally affected by it. After this comment, they (predictably) got super heated, you turned the heat up even more in response... and you both ended up in salty fun town. ...Even so, their "troll" comment really did come out of nowhere (aggressively calling someone out on poor wording = trolling...?) but you could've still chosen to de-escalate from there.


Spready_Unsettling

"There are valid mental and physical health reasons for using paper plates" "Oh yeah, sure. I wasn't talking about them, but I guess I can amend my comment to be more inclusive" "Sure thing, thanks." Easy as that. I very much doubt anyone will disrespect someone for being forced to use paper plates. That said, I will tear a new asshole in anyone who just doesn't wanna deal with washing dishes. That's the kind of waste that is actively killing the planet, and some of the excuses in this thread are fucking insane.


Pesto_Power

Yep, I'd side with MurderOfCrows except that their comment was so unnecessarily aggressive. What you put is all that was needed. > I will tear a new asshole in anyone who just doesn't wanna deal with washing dishes. Uhoh, I'm super bad at staying on top of doing the dishes. I don't use paper plates, though... I just end up eating out of packets... or even worse >!reusing plates and cutlery without washing them!<.


Spready_Unsettling

Hey, that's called saving on water ;) Jokes aside, I also deal with depression be ADHD. I know how tough it can be to keep things clean when even taking a single plate to the kitchen just doesn't happen. Hell, I have plastic containers in my room *right now* that I've been putting off for a week, and I'm on my last set of sheets because I kept procrastinating on putting in the wash. What I'm saying is that mental health is a very real thing, and can be a valid excuse for not using proper plates while you focus on just getting out of bed in the morning. That said, anyone capable of using actual plates has a moral obligation to do so. We're in a climate crisis. The kind of apathetic consumption that the west has so easily normalized has to stop right fucking now. I will gladly tell someone "fuck you" to their face for going on cruises. I simply don't respect people who drive big trucks, and I don't date people who don't take climate change seriously. We need more than a tacit approval of the science if we're gonna get anywhere. Just in this thread, I was reminded of the grotesque misunderstanding that "if 71% of emissions come from 100 companies, then I'm not too blame in any way". Do you know who's the most polluting company in the world when it comes to plastic? Coca-cola. The big oil companies may be the worst offenders over all, but even their products are consumed by people. If not through driving and flying, then through shipping all kinds of goods all over the world all the time. Their profit structures are largely centered around single use plastic (since it's a rest product from oil drilling), so they profit immensely from normalized single use paper. I'm gonna go into another rant if I continue, so I'm stopping right here.


Pesto_Power

Haha, yep I also have ADHD, possibly depression too (the depression hasn't been diagnosed but, yeah unofficially I do get it a lot). What you're describing is very similar to how I'm living. > We're in a climate crisis. The kind of apathetic consumption that the west has so easily normalized has to stop right fucking now. I *slightly* disagree here. In that... I'll definitely vote for whichever politician looks most serious about tackling climate change, and although I'm not very politically active, if I were I'd definitely support things like higher taxes on disposable stuff. But, I've also read that making personal changes is just a way to kid yourself, and that without *systematic* changes, you're putting in a lot of individual effort and barely making a difference at all. So, my own mindset is that I'm not gonna go out of my way to make lifestyle changes. Partly because, I feel like if half the population is already making an effort to be greener, then that puts less onus on politicians to create greener laws. Whereas if *no one's* making the effort, then (hopefully) our governments will be much more proactive in their climate policies. That said, although I still eat meat occasionally, don't remember to sort my recycling, and often leave my PC running overnight, aside from those things I'm pretty green anyway. I don't use many disposables, don't own a car myself, and couldn't afford to go on cruises even if I wanted to. And actually yeah, > I simply don't respect people who drive big trucks, I think I'd be the same TBH. Even if it runs counter to what I just said, I don't think I could remain friends with anyone who I thought was actively going out of their way to be as polluting as possible. Not making an effort to be greener is one thing, but *choosing* to go the other way is much worse. > Just in this thread, I was reminded of the grotesque misunderstanding that "if 71% of emissions come from 100 companies, then I'm not too blame in any way". Eh whoops, as I said before, that's kinda my view too. Or rather that, we all *are* to blame, but making personal changes (as opposed to campaigning for systematic change) is a tonne of effort for very little benefit. Voting only makes a tiny difference on an individual scale, but that's an action you only need to do once a year. Living green is like voting (in that your choices only speak for one member of the population) except that it requires *constant* personal investment.


MyMurderOfCrows

I am glad you decided to at least fix it even if you still had to be a dick about how it was brought up. I will give credit where credit is due! Just an FYI, admitting you are or were wrong, isn’t a bad trait. It doesn’t make you look bad or anything of the sort. A simple “my bad” would have been all you needed. Regardless, props for fixing your post!


Spready_Unsettling

You're being needlessly aggressive about an honest mistake. The other commenter had no issue with using more inclusive language, but your tone is unbearable.


Glitterpinkdragon

Might as well just throw the food at his face and skip the plate all together


VampireQueenDespair

Use lead plates. Slowly the lead will poison him. Marry him as he gets sicker, and over time he wastes way. Inherit his money.


OriginalGundu

I would watch this movie.


NoneBinaryPotato

Ok but why would you even use paper plates at home when you have real plates


vanillaseltzer

One off the top of my head: Mental illness such as depression where even the most basic day to day living is a massive challenge. By most basic, I really mean eating, drinking, bathing, moving your body, removing garbage from your home- I'm glad it sounds like you and a TON of others here haven't experienced anything that would make you understand what that survival mode is like. If it's not eating at all versus using paper plates during a rough period, I choose temporary wastefulness. The alternative may be rotting unwashed dishes piling in the sink and then not eating anything that requires dishes until you try different meds for the next year until something finally helps. After leaving my abusive ex husband before coming out (Feb 2020) I went more than a year without using my kitchen. Including my kitchen sink. My dishes were dirty and I was so overwhelmed by how insurmountable the mess in my apartment had gotten during the 3 month shutdown in my state that *I* shut down. It paralyzed me with shame that I couldn't just wash my fucking dishes like a normal person. For months, I was only holding it together at work but otherwise had zero life outside of that. My first thought upon waking was either "not again." or "oh no, not another one, I can't do another one today." I meant living through another day seemed insurmountable, so yeah, dishes were on the list there below a few other things. For another example, at my worst point, I would just drop trash on the floor next to the garbage when the garbage was full. If I was having a 'good' day then I'd start another trash bag next to the first one. It took me more than a month to take out my trash at one point. The SHAME is incredible. I didn't ask for help because I was too mortified to be a slob eating off Costco paper plates at age 32 and living in a space where you need to weave between trash bags and recycling boxes to walk around. I am a professional at work, I fake my shit well. The semester in college that I was suicidal, I got straight A's but was a complete glassy eyed zombie of apathy when I didn't have to perform for anyone. I'm doing better with depression now, but between my sleep disorder and a stomach condition, I still end up reaching for paper sometimes because I'm just too weak/shakey/exhausted to deal with dishes when I'm not dragging myself around work pretending I'm healthy. But I'm not about to let them pile up like they did! I guess I'm scared of dishes now, because I don't feel confident that I'll be well enough to clean them in a timely manner. Not everyone is playing with the same amount of cards available in their deck as your average person.


[deleted]

Who the hell is using paper plates? Thats so expensive and wasteful...


pulloutking42069

my dad used to fill our cupboards with exclusively paper plates/plastic silverware/plastic cups because i was really depressed, and every time i brought kitchenware and dishes to my room instead of bringing it back downstairs and putting it in the dishwasher i would throw the dishes away! in the garbage :) like real dishes! yay for me idk if this answers ur question but that’s a reason we used em


MyMurderOfCrows

I am glad most people here haven’t had to experience that type of situation because fuck there are a lot of shitty things people are saying… I hope you are doing better or are doing better soon…. i definitely know what you mean and I have had similar issues before having my ADHD diagnosed and major depressive disorder where I would struggle to get out of bed and end up in bed for 17 hours on some days… and yea.


pulloutking42069

i feel that. 100%.


vanillaseltzer

One off the top of my head: Mental illness such as depression where even the most basic day to day living is a massive challenge. By most basic, I really mean eating, drinking, bathing, moving your body, removing garbage from your home- I'm glad it sounds like you and a TON of others here haven't experienced anything that would make you understand what that survival mode is like. If it's not eating at all versus using paper plates during a rough period, I choose temporary wastefulness. The alternative may be rotting unwashed dishes piling in the sink and then not eating anything that requires dishes until you try different meds for the next year until something finally helps. After leaving my abusive ex husband before coming out (Feb 2020) I went more than a year without using my kitchen. Including my kitchen sink. My dishes were dirty and I was so overwhelmed by how insurmountable the mess in my apartment had gotten during the 3 month shutdown in my state that *I* shut down. It paralyzed me with shame that I couldn't just wash my fucking dishes like a normal person. For months, I was only holding it together at work but otherwise had zero life outside of that. My first thought upon waking was either "not again." or "oh no, not another one, I can't do another one today." I meant living through another day seemed insurmountable, so yeah, dishes were on the list there below a few other things. For another example, at my worst point, I would just drop trash on the floor next to the garbage when the garbage was full. If I was having a 'good' day then I'd start another trash bag next to the first one. It took me more than a month to take out my trash at one point. The SHAME is incredible. I didn't ask for help because I was too mortified to be a slob eating off Costco paper plates at age 32 and living in a space where you need to weave between trash bags and recycling boxes to walk around. I am a professional at work, I fake my shit well. The semester in college that I was suicidal, I got straight A's but was a complete glassy eyed zombie of apathy when I didn't have to perform for anyone. I'm doing better with depression now, but between my sleep disorder and a stomach condition, I still end up reaching for paper sometimes because I'm just too weak/shakey/exhausted to deal with dishes when I'm not dragging myself around work pretending I'm healthy. But I'm not about to let them pile up like they did! I guess I'm scared of dishes now, because I don't feel confident that I'll be well enough to clean them in a timely manner. Not everyone is playing with the same amount of cards available in their deck as your average person.


pocketnotebook

In this house we have one set of fabulously expensive wedding china that never gets used for any reason and a constant stream of paper plates that we're wasting money on


MoonDoggos

but paper plates are good for picnics and outdoor BBQs...


RewZes

Facebook is the place where all the boomers resides now so seeing weird racist/sexist post there is like wondering why there is salt in the sea.


Glittering-Tip-981

What the fuck is wrong with Facebook posts.. also why are so many ppl having problems with paper plates? It's what we get at school, it's what I use when I can't do dishes..


goober_ginge

This is a seemingly fairly common practice in the US that I've never properly understood. I get using paper plates at a kid's birthday party or even a bbq or something, but why in the home for general daily use? Is it literally just do you don't have to wash it? I first noticed it on Here Comes Honey Boo Boo and thought it was mainly just a white trash thing, but I've seen recent videos of The Rock on Instagram doing the same thing at his home. Does it just become a habit? I grew up in a tiny bogan town in Australia and I never really saw this. Plastic plates, yes, but not the one use type.


Eggowaffles-_-

Ngl, thought this was r/tumblr for a moment.


gamingthrowawway2021

Honestly I wish Tumblr ruled the world sometimes. Straight people, especially straight men, have often made this world worse, especially if they're white and rich.


uuussseeerrrname

I just want to mention the pic used to depict paper plate is actually of thin ceramic plates !!


AuntieEms

If I serve you food and you complain about what I serve it on then you can bloody well cook your own in the future.


thefractaldactyl

I personally would never serve anyone food on a paper plate unless it was just random snacks or we were eating at a cookout or something. Part of this is just the food snob in me wanting to present my food in a more appealing way, but, under certain circumstances, it does actually improve the food. That being said, I think if anyone out there puts effort into making food for you, you should always appreciate their effort. Even if it is food you dislike, even if they mess up, and even if they serve it to you on a paper plate.


Spready_Unsettling

The issue is the insane waste. Don't ever serve anything in or on single use *anything* unless you have a good reason.


thefractaldactyl

When it comes to waste, I generally do not consider most paper products to be "insane" but I get your point. There are a ton of single-use things that you likely have in your house all the time. Paper plates are not going to be the thing that bathes the planet in flames. I think if it is more convenient for someone to use a paper plate, they totally should and I am not going to stop them.


clouddevourer

Dear men if your woman serves you a meal on a paper plate, this is obviously out of care for you, since paper is made of cellulose and cellulose is fiber and fiber is good for digestion. Please appreciate the care and eat the plate without fuss. This is all out of feminine instinct to care, nurture and keep a good household, since using paper plates saves water and resources on cleaning.


tu_soma

Chaotic neutral answer vs chaotic good answer


[deleted]

Wait, how many people use paper plates in a daily basis?!


Glittering-Tip-981

Oh god no one even knows


FantasticCranberry27

I don’t like paper plates nor do I like “real” plates🤮. I like plastic/foam plates 😎 easy to use😁, no need to wash🤪, soak proof🥳! It’s still bad for the environment tho🥺, but the Earth 🌎 will die💀 anyways🤷‍♀️/s /jk


Hex_Agon

This is why I use Corelle glass plates


Thriftyverse

I can't remember the last time I had a paper plate, but I know it went on a compost pile afterwards.


Monica_is_me

Two words: they're straight


Slow_Explanation_02

I wouldn’t serve a man anyway but if I did and he complains it’s on a paper plate in throwing it on the ground and he could eat it off the floor because I’m not making him anything else


omgidfk123

Honestly I agree. Paper plates should never be used, you join the future and get styrofoam


XnMeX

As a "mostly" straight male, I do the dishes since my wife does the cooking (like I do vacuuming / trash and she does laundry... You know... A partnership). So no, use the paper plates when possible so I have less to clean! ;)


DarkRelm22

the comment about digesting the paper plate made me snort tbh


justcallmeMgender

Hon estlytdepends on the fd Edit:honestly out depend on the food


NorParasaurolophus

The real question is: Why do Americans use so many paper plates?? It's so wasteful.


dysper59

it doesn't have to be about "real women," i just think that paper plates are just not designed to withstand some foods.


WarWeasle

It's called a burrito!


ActualPopularMonster

If my husband ever told me to fix him a plate of food, I would get out one of the good plates we got for a wedding present and break it over his head. Then I would use one of the shards to chase him around the house while cussing him out. Why do men expect to be waited on like a bunch of grown-ass children??? I don't even do my husband's laundry, I'm his wife not his maid. He doesn't need catered to, he's not my child. (Sorry for the rant, I just can't with this servile attitude)


Grovyle489

Ok so I’m against the stupidity of this post, but I’d probably finish the paper plates first and then go for the real plates. Less time to actually do the dishes regardless who does the dishes. Whether it is a man or a woman


happywaffle1010

USE REAL PLATES BWCAISE TROWING AWAY TRASH IS BAD


c0wb3lly

literally no person thinks like this lmfao